How does SE justify these ten min enrages, but doesnt let anyone know their dps

[Driavna]

It's not a secret that developers and Yoshida-san heavily dislike parsers.
I think someone already mentioned that old interview, when he walked out when asked about parsers.
Still, a personal parser would be a really good step in right direction.

He walked out when asked about but slider I think. Anyway, at times DEVS will say what they player base want to hear so pay more attention to what they do. If Yoshida really wants to remove parsers all they need to do is to change how the combat log works and for example only show upgrade information after a fight is done. There, no more parser in real time.

[RiceisNice]

No, they don't, the moment they receive a feedback going against what they want to hear they shut their ears, many times problems with classes on wow went live after months of betas,alphas, PTRs.
Stop spreading this myth that they make a better job, becayse they don't, the most unbalanced metagame in FF14 is still MILES away from what is in wow EVEN facturing the extra specs this game is far more balanced than wow

Test servers have generally been more about stability rather than balancing though. With PTR, the collective data is far too small (and not to mention that players are generally doing this to play the content ahead of time anyway)

[AziraSyuren]

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It's not the fault of other people for caring- It's your fault that you don't care. Kicking you from a Susano party is more than a little petty, sure, because it's braindead-easy content that anyone with half a brain and attention span can clear on, but if your results are garbage, and you're afraid of being judged, it's up to you to fix them. Hiding your parses actually looks worse than having bad ones, and for good reason. Flush out the bad runs with good ones so people aren't wondering if you're worth their time.

FFlogs is a résumé. While it isn't the end-all-be-all for player skill, it, at the very least, shows how much someone cares. If you don't care, and I'm doing serious content (usually restricted to Savage), I don't want you in my party.

...I mean, to be clear, I won't kick someone just because of low DPS on fflogs, but it certainly gives me context to judge them for their mistakes.

Let your results speak for themselves. I know mine do.

[bswpayton]

It's not the fault of other people for caring- It's your fault that you

Again floggs is posted without ones knowledge , and stop actin like every time you go into an instance you are geting 1000 percent every single time. If you have cleared the content before and if you are preforming their in the moment is a better judge than floggs. Everything you just said is exactly why these anti parse people have a point. If the person you are commenting on has cleared a fight 40 times as they say and you focus on floggs then floggs is really an issue then. Fflogs is not like a resume because on my resume I actually put my work history on there myself and try my hardest to make it look presentable. Fflogs for the most part if your not uploading them yourselfs, all kinds of variables.

[Mycow8me]

I'm going to share an experience I had today in V1S. It was evident that a paladin was parsing but I don't care what other players do as long as its not affecting me.

We zoned in and he told me to pull so he could dump his mp on holy spirit then he would grab it and spend the rest of the fight in sword oath. I was really agitated, like screw my opener just so you can use a few holy spirits and have no mp for clemency for a bit. This same paladin ended up dying to twinbolt and I spent the rest of the fight in defiance (except a few deliverance bursts) and we still won just fine, didn't want to deal with this guy MTing. Because of this, my DPS was lower than his even with his death.

Saying fflogs is a resume is absurd, its not going to tell you things like this. If anything fflogs may have been the result of the paladin playing like this. This is why I don't officially support parsers but at the same time, I appreciate tools for self improvement. I don't support these percentiles where just having a bigger ilvl or OTing the whole fight can give you a significant percentile boost. I know DPS is a strong priority in this game due to enrages but the line has to be drawn somewhere and I draw it at things like this.

[Rawrz]

Flush out the bad runs with good ones so people aren't wondering if you're worth their time.

FFlogs is a résumé.

As a PS4 player this is doing the content over and over again hoping that you did well and praying that some party member posts it. [For some content... My Susano and Lak logs are terrible and outdated. I have maybe 5 parses. I've gotten 40+ Clears on each and Clear over 4k each time at least but my logs are all 3.4 and 3.5k. Q.Q]

T-Minus 2 weeks until I have my computer. Then i won't be at that mercy.

[AziraSyuren]

Again floggs is posted without ones knowledge , and stop actin like every time you go into an instance you are geting 1000 percent every single time.

lol

Well, like I said, I'll let my results speak for themselves. While it's not 1000th percentile on everything, it's damn close. Anyone could look at my numbers and tell that I'm at least capable of consistently putting out good DPS in many different party comps and situations.

Also, if you do a fight 40 times and still do bad damage, I don't want you in Savage with me. Is that really an unreasonable expectation?

I'm going to share an experience I had today in V1S. It was evident that a paladin was parsing but I don't care what other players do as long as its not affecting me.

We zoned in and he told me to pull so he could dump his mp on holy spirit then he would grab it and spend the rest of the fight in sword oath. I was really agitated, like screw my opener just so you can use a few holy spirits and have no mp for clemency for a bit. This same paladin ended up dying to twinbolt and I spent the rest of the fight in defiance (except a few deliverance bursts) and we still won just fine, didn't want to deal with this guy MTing. Because of this, my DPS was lower than his even with his death.

Saying fflogs is a resume is absurd, its not going to tell you things like this. If anything fflogs may have been the result of the paladin playing like this. This is why I don't officially support parsers but at the same time, I appreciate tools for self improvement. I don't support these percentiles where just having a bigger ilvl or OTing the whole fight can give you a significant percentile boost. I know DPS is a strong priority in this game due to enrages but the line has to be drawn somewhere and I draw it at things like this.

You can pull top-tier numbers without resorting to shenanigans like that. Playing in a manner that's burdensome to other players is a crutch.

To that end, I agree with you. Being so brazenly selfish is a bad thing.

But when recruiting people for high-end content, knowing that people are capable of such numbers is very important. You can hash out the teamwork aspect later. But that just furthers my point- it's exactly like a résumé in that it's a surface-level examination of your capabilities and qualifications.

Also, I would like to emphasize that this mindset is only relevant when recruiting for high-end content. If it's just EX primals or an O1/2S run, I don't care. Your performance during the fight is all that matters.

[JunseiKei]

He walked out when asked about but slider I think. Anyway, at times DEVS will say what they player base want to hear so pay more attention to what they do. If Yoshida really wants to remove parsers all they need to do is to change how the combat log works and for example only show upgrade information after a fight is done. There, no more parser in real time.

Just wanted to clarify this. It's not even an old live letter, but people have already forgotten what happened.

The question was if we could get a personal parser. Yoshi gets up part way and is jokingly pulled back into his seat by Koji. Yoshida has also done this on other questions that have been dodged and/or answered many times over, parsers being just one of those topics that he'd just prefer to 'dodge' [read: repeating himself] since his answers go in one ear and our of the other in the community. The answer on the personal parser was he fully understands the community would be able to crack the coding and turn a personal parser into a group one and start excluding people. He does not want to give people tools anymore than they have now to exclude other players.

[KageTokage]

I feel like they need to add a "Has cleared Stone, Sea, and Sky" option to the PF recruitment for high level trials/raids, because it's just silly to repeatedly run into things like PLDs who do nothing but spam their enmity combo in OS1, yet have still gotten clears to the DPS carrying them.

It just causes frustration for the groups they join when they step into the tougher raids/trials that actually require good DPS from them.

[akaneakki]

Again floggs is posted without ones knowledge

Ok, so someone posted your bad logs then 4 weeks later it's still the same result, whos fault is that?