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    Laurawrzz's Avatar
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    Astrid Paradox
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    Shiva
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
    Started around 04 early 05 and ended it around 08. so 3-4 years. I loved ToAU, was really good, specially odin wandering around! haha. Anyways, I think you might be ''wrong'' on this one. I see where you come from since we both been playing it, right? Now, the thing about the game (your statement) is that it's all about parsing and parsing and numbers.
    Sorry, I really think you're missing my point. I'm saying that the community is rotting and parsers are swiftly moving this along by making heroes and villains out of people faster than ever before. This kind of repetitive confrontational behaviour is leading to self-destruction of the community, which in turn is leading to the kind of community where kicks, shaming, and racism are the norm. I'm just saying what I see. The problem never used to be this bad. I outlined the racist comments as a symptom of a sick community that I see getting worse everyday - for this, I partially blame parsers.

    Parsers are not the only cause of kicks and I never said that, they are simply a cause, a cause that is expanding its use quickly. Almost every run, I know someone's parsing. Players don't know they're being parsed. Players don't even know FFLogs exist. If you had something like this in real life it wouldn't be allowed. Comparison: You're in an office. One colleague, one day, takes information about your job performance, and without your consent or knowledge, makes 500 copies and gives it to all of your colleagues to look at. And you can't do anything about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    Playing FFXI from Zilart, I saw a lot of groups break apart/reform without underperforming members/kick members flat out over many many many years. XI was not devoid of this mentality that you say plagues XIV but not XI.
    As I said, but I'll restate it anyway, I'm not saying parsers are the cause, they are a cause of an increasingly volatile community. Yeah, dicks will be dicks and FF14 has always had dicks, but the dick-rate is going up fast, and the popularity of parsers increasing with the dick-rate are matching trends that I can't personally ignore. If course it happened in FF11 in its own way, but nowhere near the extent I see it now.
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    Last edited by Laurawrzz; 08-13-2017 at 10:39 PM.