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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    However, players don't use them properly. Instead, people scream at you if you don't play the "best spec" and the best build the cutting edge raiders are using. I saw this in WoW and I have no reason to believe it will be different here.
    Got a source? Any numbers to back your claim up? Anything beyond anecdote?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Got a source? Any numbers to back your claim up? Anything beyond anecdote?
    Really? You're really going to play that card?

    Of course I don't have numbers! It's not like I was attempting to write a thesis paper. I was playing WoW.

    The fact is I started playing WoW in the final weeks of Vanilla and only went on hiatus this past month. During that time, I witnessed a helpful, fun community devolve into a nasty, competitive community focused on efficiency rather than having fun. I feel that change was brought about by the introduction of parser add-ons.

    I do not want that to happen here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    Really? You're really going to play that card?

    Of course I don't have numbers! It's not like I was attempting to write a thesis paper. I was playing WoW.

    The fact is I started playing WoW in the final weeks of Vanilla and only went on hiatus this past month. During that time, I witnessed a helpful, fun community devolve into a nasty, competitive community focused on efficiency rather than having fun. I feel that change was brought about by the introduction of parser add-ons.

    I do not want that to happen here.
    That already exists in this game: FFlogs.
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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    Really? You're really going to play that card?
    Of course I am. You made a claim, you have to back it up.

    Of course I don't have numbers! It's not like I was attempting to write a thesis paper. I was playing WoW.
    If all you have is anecdotal evidence, then honestly you've added nothing to the conversation. It's not about "writing a thesis paper", it's about presenting an argument with some class.

    The fact is I started playing WoW in the final weeks of Vanilla and only went on hiatus this past month. During that time, I witnessed a helpful, fun community devolve into a nasty, competitive community focused on efficiency rather than having fun. I feel that change was brought about by the introduction of parser add-ons
    I'm sorry you feel that way. I have no reason to disbelieve your claim, but I also have no reason to believe the extrapolation that this can be reflected past your experience. Which is why anecdotal evidence is so weak as to be worse than worthless.

    I do not want that to happen here.
    It's an admirable sentiment.
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