How does SE justify these ten min enrages, but doesnt let anyone know their dps

[Dualgunner]

I'm indifferent on the subject at this point. Too many hard heads on both sides and neither willing to give in. It's not worth arguing really, we already have our answer and that's that.

That said, I am partial to having a parser available. I like having as much information quantitatively available to me as possible; I hate qualitative data.

[Jib]

I'm indifferent on the subject at this point. Too many hard heads on both sides and neither willing to give in. It's not worth arguing really, we already have our answer and that's that.

That said, I am partial to having a parser available. I like having as much information quantitatively available to me as possible; I hate qualitative data.

i totally support your comment. this is the same way I think also. but some players, some comments.. ... ...

"If you have to rely on a third party tool to clear content, you're probably not ready to tackle said content." - Thunda_Cat_Smash


/facepalm

[RichardButte]

SE:
>Designs boss battles that are pure DPS checks
>Doesn't tell players their DPS

At the very least, just give us our own PERSONAL DPS/HPS meters so we have an idea of whether or not one rotation path is more beneficial than another.

Players who don't want to tell others their DPS can just lie about it anyway, like they currently can already!

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

If you have to rely on a third party tool to clear content, you're probably not ready to tackle said content.

[bswpayton]

If you have to rely on a third party tool to clear content, you're probably not ready to tackle said content.

I already mention I pug content, so I dont have a static like I said so if your doing a party finder group and dont have a parse then you have no idea if someone is under performing. I also said I know that SE isnt gona allow parsers, I asked for something like the pvp system that it tells you everyones total dps at the end. nothing in this game is unbeatable but people whom run content wit the same people over and over again def have it better the pug life is alot more going on

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Snip.

No static, on PS4, PUG all content because I hate dealing with strict raid schedules. People that parse have not told me anything that I don't already know. If you want to get better, look at your in-game tools. If you don't want to get better, than you need to rely on third party tools to get you to the clear.

[Rita1989]

If you have to rely on a third party tool to clear content, you're probably not ready to tackle said content.

Guessing you have never raided before

[RichardButte]

If you have to rely on a third party tool to clear content, you're probably not ready to tackle said content.

It's actually just the opposite, though.

If you're not serious enough to be using a 3rd party program to see who in your raid group is slacking, you're not ready to tackle said content.

I'm pretty sure that all the hardcore "world first" FCs are using it, and I can't imagine anyone trying SSavage won't be using it.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

I'm pretty sure that all the hardcore "world first" FCs are using it, and I can't imagine anyone trying SSavage won't be using it.

Oh, I never said that using parsers is a bad thing! It's a bonus that can help with the intricacies of a fight. Worldfirsters know their jobs inside and out, and only use parsers to fine tune details. Relying on it and using it as a bonus are completely different things.

Relying on a parser: "I need to use this or I can't clear content!"

Not relying on a parser, but using one: "So, I messed up slightly here and here, what shall I do instead?"

The first states you can't improve without it, the second acknowledges player mess ups and how they can be improved.

[RichardButte]

Oh, I never said that using parsers is a bad thing! It's a bonus that can help with the intricacies of a fight. Worldfirsters know their jobs inside and out, and only use parsers to fine tune details. Relying on it and using it as a bonus are completely different things.

Relying on a parser: "I need to use this or I can't clear content!"

Not relying on a parser, but using one: "So, I messed up slightly here and here, what shall I do instead?"

The first states you can't improve without it, the second acknowledges player mess ups and how they can be improved.

Definitely in that case.

I think we're mostly talking about people who don't know the exact right rotation or raid leaders who have no way of knowing who among their raid group isn't being all that they can be.