Lore loom items?

[Genoreaper]

Thoughts on adding heirloom items similar to wow (I know comparing wow is taboo but hear me out)

Level a job, get tomestones to buy gear for other jobs (many already share with others) where the stats scale with level and add a perm xp bonus. To make it a ltitle less gimmicky you could make it so they don't reset levels for reuse and can be traded in for a fraction of tomestone price after max leveled. Otherwise it's just potd to powerlevel.

[LunaFaye]

Back in the day we suggested relic armor, just like the weapon, you would get a set and then have to lvl it up. And while Yoshi said in a couple of interviews at the beginning that he would think about that, I think it's out of the window. So would be your idea because that's not what the developers want, not sure why but we need to accept it.

And it's not tabu to talk about WoW, but there's a reason lots of people don't play it anymore, and it's not because their system was/is so amazing that it made people rage quit. FFXIV should beunique/creative and I know we do lack that in many departments, but it shouldn't be a copy of other games or their systems, might as well make it f2p if we go that route.

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

Doesn't the armory bonus provide the type of xp bonus (faster xp for alts) wow's heirlooms provide already? I'm not sure wow-like heirlooms would fulfill any real need. It's not like leveling dungeons are difficult or need to be made any easier than they already are, nor is it difficult for players to get gear for leveling (there's vendors all over and crafted gear as well). There just doesn't seem to be any real purpose to adding such a thing to FFXIV as far as I can see.

[Dameron]

No no no, abso-freaking-lutely not.

Heirlooms completely ruined the leveling experience in WoW. Even disregarding the exp boost (which you already get plenty of in FFXIV), they are just rediculously overstatted and completely take away the enjoyment of gathering new equipment. As for your "Otherwise it's just potd to powerlevel" argument, people would do that regardless of whether or not there are heirlooms.

Say no to heirlooms, say yes to people actually playing the game.

[magnanimousCynic]

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You know Heirlooms in WoW aren't easily obtainable by new players, right? They're meant for alts, AKA people who have already went through the leveling experience.

Besides, just because Heirlooms have OP stats in WoW doesn't necessarily mean that it'll be the same case in FFXIV. Besides, level sync already makes overstatting a non-issue in leveling dungeons.

[Dameron]

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Well, you can buy heirlooms with Gold nowadays. Combined with the inflation, even complete newbies can afford a full set before they hit 60.

Also, we already know it will be the same as in WoW, because the same WoW players who used heirlooms there are coming here to demand heirlooms here. And as such, even if they get heirlooms that aren't overstatted, they'll eventually start demanding the OP stats until they get their way. Demand a finger, take an arm.

The level sync would admittedly alleviate things a little, but I'm still completely opposed to creating gear that will be able to carry people all the way to max level without needing replacements. It's a stupid idea that basically makes an entire part of the game play itself. Leveling players already get plenty, give them even more and it will become as boring as in WoW.

[Nezerius]

You know Heirlooms in WoW aren't easily obtainable by new players, right? They're meant for alts, AKA people who have already went through the leveling experience.

Sorta offtopic, but the WoW token made it much easier for even a newer player to obtain them, it just requires throwing a bit of extra money at Blizzard, and joining a random tradechat guild. They can basically buy a WoW token, sell it for around 135k (or around 210k if on EU), and buy a full set of the exp bonus heirlooms (helm, shoulders, cloak, chest, pants) + the items to upgrade them all to 110, for 42.5k.

Then again, a new player would just use the free boost to 100 anyway.

As for heirlooms in XIV? I dunno, maybe ones that only increase in stats as you level up. The armoury system already handles the increased exp part that WoW heirlooms give.

[Ayerinn]

No no no, abso-freaking-lutely not.

Heirlooms completely ruined the leveling experience in WoW.

Heirlooms have a limit - in FF14 they would stop providing XP at 60 if compared to WoW. The armory bonus system is nice and all except it can't apply to the quests that *do not exist* for alt specs...see that is where this whole armory bonus/ play all the classes on one character fails, HARD. Leveling an alt job is a PITA because if you enjoy questing and not doing mind numbing content over and over and over again - you are SoL. In every other MMO I have played (which is a lot...)I always have *many* max level classes because leveling is actually fun in those MMO's - in FF14 the first job is awesome to max and then it is like pulling teeth...literally the only MMO I HATE to level "alts" - talk about slow and boring. *Anything* to speed up the nonsense of leveling alt (battle) jobs in this game would be helpful, including "heirlooms."

[Naunet]

Heirlooms completely ruined the leveling experience in WoW. Even disregarding the exp boost (which you already get plenty of in FFXIV), they are just rediculously overstatted and completely take away the enjoyment of gathering new equipment.

There has always been the option of... not wearing heirlooms. I have pretty much all of them unlocked and very rarely use them in WoW.

As for heirlooms in XIV? I dunno, maybe ones that only increase in stats as you level up. The armoury system already handles the increased exp part that WoW heirlooms give.

This would be nice. And it would help ease armoury issues.

[Galgarion]

No no no, abso-freaking-lutely not.

Heirlooms completely ruined the leveling experience in WoW. Even disregarding the exp boost (which you already get plenty of in FFXIV), they are just rediculously overstatted and completely take away the enjoyment of gathering new equipment. As for your "Otherwise it's just potd to powerlevel" argument, people would do that regardless of whether or not there are heirlooms.

Say no to heirlooms, say yes to people actually playing the game.

Not to mention that wow heirlooms were so powerful that you got good results even if you were playing with a crap rotation, which tricked bad players into thinking they were good up until they outleveled their looms and discovered that they were horrible at their class. They couldn't hang at endgame so they'd just roll new alts and level up all over again. Better to be a big fish in a small pond, and all that.