Open Discussion: DPS Qeue fix ideas

[Dzian]

Many would feel forced to play tank/healer in order to level their DPS toon. Personaly I would really hate such a system. I'd prefer to pay real $ instead to skip it. I mean, how is it fun to get a toon lvl 70 you haven't played ?

If done right they wouldn't. The issue is the system forces you to play the class you want to level. So if there's 100 players that want to level a dps job all stuck in a queue. Its Because they have to be on that job.

If you made the AIN reward an exp scroll or something then even if only 10 of those 100 people decided to take advantage of that and roll as AIN then straight away that queue size is slashed by 30%

Then even if the 70 left in the queue didn't want to change to AIN they'd still benefit because they're 30 places further forward in the queue han they would have been... whixb means they'll get in faster..

[Maero]

@ LunaFeye>> Sorry to say but i am also on the same server as you (Leviathan) and queue times are horrid for dps.
Roulettes are so so, but i tried to queue for Dun Hell yesterday (needed for WT book) and i was in queue for a hr and a half until i gave up.
Experts at times if i am not with a healer and or tank friend takes over 30 mins at times

I do not know what can actually be done for queue times, there is no real solution since so many dps out there

As for the Adventure in Need, it always seems it is tanks
I would prefer to heal randoms then tank, lol

[RitsukoSonoda]

I have to repeat myself on this topic quite alot.... Noone played DRK and AST because they were extremely underpowered and 20 Levels Away from Heavensward content.

Apparently that must have been what happened on your server. On mine there was a large shift of tank and healer population that moved to DRK and AST to try them out. Afterwards when the newness wore off some stayed on these jobs and the rest migrated back to their previous mains. Actually this probably helped ppl leveling DPS classes because there were more tanks and healers jumping into DF queues. You act like it would take forever to lvl a tank or healer from 30 to 60 when we had players on these new jobs at lv 60 in something like 2 days after unlocking the job because they had both the time needed to do it and already planned the entire exp route.

[MistakeNot]

Most of the suggestions in this thread won't help. The major cause of the problem is with the players, not the game or the classes/jobs.

There is not really much of a shortage of tanks or healers overall. There is however a shortage of people willing to tank/heal for random people.

There is more pressure on tanks and healers than on dps. Not because the role is harder, but because any mistakes will be more visible.
Although most players are decent enough, there are enough that will yell at other people for doing mistakes that many people don't want to take the risk of ending up with one of them, so they will tank/heal only when they play with friends.

[Kosmos992k]

If done right they wouldn't. The issue is the system forces you to play the class you want to level. So if there's 100 players that want to level a dps job all stuck in a queue. Its Because they have to be on that job.

Imagine that! To level a job, you must play that job. Amazing! Who'd have thought that would be the case?

[RukiaFae]

Even if everyone played a healer and tank it is still unbalanced. There are not enough healers and tanks to level up compared to dps. There are 9 dps or 8 with smn/sch. Compared to only 3 tanks and healers each. After people level up their healer or tank they move on to the multiple dps rolls. That's where the imbalance comes in. People spend more time on dps because there are so many jobs to level.

I already level two healers and I'm working on my last one. After I hit 70 I'm hanging up my healing hat for a while because I don't have another healer to level and I'm going to focus on leveling up my dps. This means there is one less healer for the weeks/months it takes to me level up 5-6 other jobs. If there were more healer jobs I would level it and this would increase the healer population. Not everyone is like this but I'm pretty sure that plays a major role in it too. So you would technically have more people playing healers/tanks if there were more jobs.

[Elfidan]

Do they post a census like they did with 11 MistakeNot? I do agree that tank and healer mistakes are disastrous , though in my personal experience the DPS are treated worse because they can be replaced.

Kosmos992k how is that any different from people who spam leve , main scenario , pvp , or palace who never learn their role, rotation, or job reasonably? It's definitely not a perfect idea ,but it is interesting.

[Drakkaelus]

The Problem is : They made Tanks and Healers unfun to play.

Yeah. PLD is in a much better place now, but think about how bad it used to be and how many people were put off by it. I think a lot of the damage has already been done. They'd NEVER attempt rolling out a DPS class with only 1 combo and almost no AoE but, because PLD was a tank, it was deemed acceptable. A lot of MMOs do this to themselves. It's like devs are afraid to give anything, "cool" to tanks or healers (FF14 does a much better job than most MMOs do, though).

[Felis]

I'm the only one who think the DPS queue is already back to normal?

[RitsukoSonoda]

I'm the only one who think the DPS queue is already back to normal?

It pretty much is back to where it was pre SB.

The issue is the DPS want instant queues for DF when their role is the equivalent of being overpopulated or being that carnival ride everyone wants to go on and have to wait for the people ahead of them in line to get in.

It has happened in the past and DPS has actually appeared as the adventurer in need. However its extremely rare to find.