Open Discussion: DPS Qeue fix ideas

[Laerune]

Maybe they could add a second role per job so people can still play the pixels they like while filling needed roles too.

I like this suggestion, but it still doesnt change that alot of the DPS players do not tank or heal, because of the role and not class. So changing Monk into a Tank/DPS class might sway some DPS players to tank as a Monk, but majority will still only DPS, because they do not want to tank or heal.

The problem is not the tanking, healer classes, its the roles. PLD/DRK/WAR/WHM/SCH/AST all have smooth gameplay with alot of flashy animation, its not the class, but role.

[ximxim]

well, seeing how toxic people now days, it's no wonder majority of both tanks and healers only play with their friends/FC (pre-made group).
Heck, even myself playing as healer or tank often meet these D'bags, and yes, these days I only group with my FC / friends I know.

or, you can make tank/healer to get those glorious instant que

[Zarabeth]

More people could play tanks/healers. that would solve it :P

The problem with this idea is that everyone wants someone else to do this and not themselves.

[Kosmos992k]

It occurred to me the other day if DPS wait times are unreasonable compared to other roles ,then SE need only increase the number per party and retouch max hp defense numbers to compensate. I wouldn't expect such a large retooling before the next expansion drop though. Anyone else have any thoughts on making the DPS timers better for our fellow gamers?

This isn't SE's problem this is purely a player based issue that comes down to too few tanks, too few healers, too many DPS. The solution is in your hands my friend, roll a tank or healer.

[Galgarion]

It occurred to me the other day if DPS wait times are unreasonable compared to other roles ,then SE need only increase the number per party and retouch max hp defense numbers to compensate. I wouldn't expect such a large retooling before the next expansion drop though. Anyone else have any thoughts on making the DPS timers better for our fellow gamers?

Play the social game. Make friends with people who play support classes and stop being so reliant on duty finder.

[Xtrasweettea]

Now for a response that is fitting to the thread, this is a player made issue. This has been the case in every MMO with some sort of role with "responsibility" and roles that have the least amount of that "responsibility."

SE can try all they want to make Tanks and Healers more enticing, but there will be a point where diminishing returns will start and no amount of cracked clusters, gil, extra EXP, mounts, private islands in the Near East, harems, free Fat Cats, whatever will pull in more people to play Tanks and Healers and keep those Tanks and Healers repeating dungeons constantly.

At some point, the playerbase will need to look in the mirror and start asking themselves if their actions are creating the environment they are in. Right now, the playerbase isn't in an enough "pain" for them to even think about reflecting on their actions. Until then, nothing is going to change from the playerbase's side.

[Tint]

Play the social game. Make friends with people who play support classes and stop being so reliant on duty finder.

not using the duty finder doesn't increase the number of tanks. there are only 100 tanks, but 500 DDs. these 100 tanks can take 200 DDs with them, regardless if they are their friends or randoms in duty finder. the other 300 DDs don't get a tank, because there simply is no one left.

[Aomine1992]

This isn't SE's problem this is purely a player based issue that comes down to too few tanks, too few healers, too many DPS. The solution is in your hands my friend, roll a tank or healer.

This is SE problem because the new classes were both dps no new shiny tank nor healer so of course people gravitate towards dps....And then the player base after that because of how they treat tanks and healers I go to the healer role section of the forums and the many why healers don't dps and right under it why healers don't heal lol both of those ppl are idiots and with the tanks there is to much to actually say about that craptastrophe but PLD is just wayyyyy better then war and drk sooo ppl don't like their favorite tank is currently, so why tank at all soooo the blame is more so 60% SE and 40% player base

[RichardButte]

I blame the state of healers and tanks, first and foremost.

It's currently possible to be chewed out as a healer for doing DPS or NOT doing DPS, because either players get hit by avoidable damage and you shouldn't have DPSed (and now you're OOM you needed to heal the tank), or they don't and you SHOULD have DPSed because that mana was just sitting around doing nothing anyway.

In either case, you'd need to have been clairvoyant to know which was going to happen.

[Kosmos992k]

This is SE problem because the new classes were both dps no new shiny tank nor healer so of course people gravitate towards dps...

No. The problem hasn't changed or got significantly worse with SB. We have had DPS complaints about Q time since just about day 1 in ARR. the problem is and always will be that far fewer people are willing to play tank or healer than are willing to play DPS. the issues with tank and healer roles are role based, not job specific, so having a new sparkly tank or healer would do nothing in the long term and would be nothing more than a shot term boost to the Qs. Sooner of later the role issues bite and we are back to square one.