Open Discussion: DPS Qeue fix ideas

[Elfidan]

It occurred to me the other day if DPS wait times are unreasonable compared to other roles ,then SE need only increase the number per party and retouch max hp defense numbers to compensate. I wouldn't expect such a large retooling before the next expansion drop though. Anyone else have any thoughts on making the DPS timers better for our fellow gamers?

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

More people could play tanks/healers. that would solve it :P

[Lilseph]

There is a shortage of both tanks and healers in DF. People prefer to go on these roles in pre-mades for a good reason. The only solution is to have more people playing these roles in DF.

[Maeka]

To be honest, trying to tweak the number of DPS per group probably would not have THAT much effect on the queue times. Even if you made 5 person groups and added a third DPS, you're still only going to be reducing the wait times by a small margin.

No, the best thing they can do is try to entice more people to play tanks and healers but sadly the toxic bickering back and forth between tanks and healers, where they disagree about doing DPS, how much healing should be done, overpulling, not pulling enough, etc makes both toxic enough that most people don't want anything to do with it. As a tank, you get yelled at if you pull too much. You get yelled at if you pull too little. As a healer, you get yelled at if you don't DPS enough. The tank dies if you DPS too much and you get yelled at.

People need to chill and they need to stop with this RUSHRUSHRUSHGOGOGOGOGOGO mentality that everybody wants 10 minute dungeons. The dungeons simply weren't designed to be done in 10 minutes, but screw that, players wanna be done ASAP. They want their instant gratification.

The playerbase only has itself to blame for bad DPS queues.

[Jybril]

Use PF.
I use it all the time. I've rarely use DF for anything these days as a DPS.
Get tank or a heal within 10mins.

[Belhi]

Ah... I remember back when they said adding 2 dps jobs to the game wouldn't particularly change queue times....

On a serious note I suspect that is possibly a major source of the queue issues and it might change as people shuffle around Jobs as the expansion goes on. They could probably make more of a difference by increasing the incentive to play a tank. Getting one cluster for a levelling run is pretty lame considering how easy they are to get from hunts. Regardless, as someone who heals, I am not sure I am a fan of just adding additional dps.

Apart from the fact that realistically would require revamping not only the grouping system but rebalancing every fight in the game, the one person in the party that is going to put more pressure on is the healer. Don't get me wrong. I enjoy challenging healing from mechanics. I don't like healing stupid. That just annoys me.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

The thing is tho, it really hasnt changed queue times, other than at launch, and even then it wasnt that bad.

Experts are less than 20 mins, leveling less than 15 mins, trials 15-20 mins.

[Elfidan]

The thing is tho, it really hasnt changed queue times, other than at launch, and even then it wasnt that bad.

Experts are less than 20 mins, leveling less than 15 mins, trials 15-20 mins.

Your input is appreciated though I must stress that this varies by server group. Mine averages at 30-40 for dungeons and 25 for trials. I don't particularly mind waiting , but I know lots of people playing dps with limited time do.

[AlphaFox]

Honestly I was all for the idea of potentially doing it as 1/1/3. After all if more DPS are going at once, that is more people getting through all together. May not be a bigger influx but if you have 1 tank/healer and 3 dps, every two pair that go is one less tank/healer needed to do the same amount of dps. Assuming I am even wording myself correctly or to a point it is understood. I wouldn't even expect it to be done for all dungeons, just from here forward.

[Jybril]

Your input is appreciated though I must stress that this varies by server group. Mine averages at 30-40 for dungeons and 25 for trials. I don't particularly mind waiting , but I know lots of people playing dps with limited time do.

Depends on Data Center.
I guess here in Aether you got like 80 things up as we speak. :/
Tanks and heals come pretty quick in PF since we host the biggest servers here.
(Balmung/Greg)
I do think adding a 3rd DPS in party would help as Alpha says.