[dev1212] More Info Dev's? What do we the players want?

[NoctisUmbra]

Just read the OP.

So SE isn't communicating with us to a sufficient degree now?

[DrekeLamorte]

The issue with the OP here is the way in which he handles himself. He clearly thinks that someone disagreeing with him is grounds for a fight, and that he needs to defend himself. The fact that he so vehemently posts retaliatory responses every time he feels wronged shows that he only wants to discuss his point of view, and have others massage his ego. If you disagree with what he's saying, you must be a troll, usually accompanied by some other curse word, because it makes people take you super-serial.

He's one of those people, who would rather fight constructive criticism and go on the defensive, as they attempt to hold their ground, like being weak is being strong, instead of taking a deep breath, reading posts with a level head, and figure out what it is they could do to avoid being flamed.

You could tell him everything he needs to hear to not be flamed for anything, except by legitimate trolls, (because we all know real trolls troll just to troll, not to express their opinions in a constructive way) and he would still continue to defend himself. Usually a product of their father and upbringing, you will never convince them to be more civil, as that's the modus operandi for civility to them.

I wish I was wrong, and that the OP would pull a 180 in his next response.

The problem with THIS thread? Let's break it down.

[dev1212] More Info Dev's? What do we the players want?

Never, under any circumstance, speak for more than yourself, unless formally appointed to speak for a collective. In which case, state the body of persons and their numbers.

I think a major aspect of SE that alot of players (myself included) hate is the lack of communication.

Starting off with negative tone; ie. hate. There's no avoiding the fact that this has started out as an attack. Let's see where this is going, hm?

So come on Dev's lets open the line of communication starting with these new raids.

Can we get some more info about it?

Well, well. Early bird, or late to the party? General knowledge to anyone who regularly keeps up with Dev Tracker posts is that it's holiday break. Hmm.. OP doesn't freshen up on all the facts before his posts, noted. Implying the Devs have a lack of communication (ignoring the comment I just made about this) means that he's grown accustomed to the communication SE has demonstrated is possible these days, and is now holding out his bowl asking "more poridge." SE has set a new standard for communicating with their player base, stop looking a gift horse in the mouth.

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to the players:

What do we want to see with these new raids?

Reasonable, could have, and rather should have, started this way.

(personally I loved what they did with Darkhold, I want to see more of that only get rid of the time chest, that annoys me, or atleast put a REALLY good item or 2 in there, the 2 time chest weapons from darkhold are pointless)

Personal opinion in parenthesis, good technique. While I could comment on it about how I feel, namely what points I disagree with, I would instead talk about the things I liked about Darkhold, without telling OP he's wrong.

Can he say the same?

[SniperRifle]

yah know what nvm. just lock this thread. nothing but trolls. I swear there is no point in talking at all on these forums.

Am I the only one who died laughing when they read this?

To be honest I haven't thought about the 1.21 dungeons at all. I think it's because after Darkhold I have a negative connotation of dungeons in FF14. That's not to say Darkhold was bad I think I just remember getting really burnt out and frustrated with the game around that time.

I just watched a Darkhold (and TotoRak) vid recently and thought it might actually be fun to redo it sometime w/ the new changes. I won't... But had I not done the dungeon over 200 times to get like 60 (exageration) different people gear when they just ended up quitting the game anyways before 1.19, I probably would go back and try it out.

I don't even know what a good dungeon is anymore, or what to expect. The idea that a dungeon could possibly be addicting and fun to me right now I can't even fathom. In terms of content that is...

For rewards? I'd like to get some company seals, like, idk, maybe x number of seals per completion, scaled accordingly to the difficulty of the dungeon/average time to clear it, split evenly amongst party members. And then seal bonuses for certain achievements, killing everything (so long as its not boring, like kill those marmots that are completely out of the way and pose no threat to dungeon completion), specific achievements like killing all the moogles before memento, but incorporate that into the dungeon and give seal bonuses for it.

This is straying slightly off topic because it's about the Grand Companies, but they could put more variety of items (quality and quantity) into GC items that can be purchased. Maybe higher GC ranks get 1% more seals per completion. If I'm going to run this dungeon 100+ times w/ all my friends, can I atleast get a little something out of it everytime? I'm aware of the luck/chance/random loot system which we all love/loathe... They can keep/lose it for all I care when it comes to gear/weapons. But having a 100% certainty of grand company seals upon completion would seem like a +1 to me. Doesn't have to be Grand Company seals... but atm 6k gil or w/e we get from the other primal/dungeon chests is kinda moot imo.

And as for gear/weapon rewards... Does it even matter? People clear Primals in Reindeer suits.

[LicontAshontear]

Well, well. Early bird, or late to the party? General knowledge to anyone who regularly keeps up with Dev Tracker posts is that it's holiday break.

Well, well, well. Foolish enough to believe the Devs couldnt possibly find this thread AFTER they are back from vacation? Or simply naive enough to believe I don't read what the devs are saying/doing? I know damn well what they are doing/saying. I also read all the translations from that one thread that has the JP dev and yoshi translations in it. The fact of the matter is the JP threads get more attention and more information because the devs themselves are JP. I want to see more info from the NA devs/reps in regards to what is going on with the game. There is a whole lot more info out there if you know where to look, but we should not have to go hunt it down and translate it, that should be the role of the NA reps.

Think before you speak.

(now lets flame each other since you brought this on yourself by attacking me)

[NoctisUmbra]

Well, well, well. Foolish enough to believe the Devs couldnt possibly find this thread AFTER they are back from vacation? Or simply naive enough to believe I don't read what the devs are saying/doing? I know damn well what they are doing/saying. I also read all the translations from that one thread that has the JP dev and yoshi translations in it. The fact of the matter is the JP threads get more attention and more information because the devs themselves are JP. I want to see more info from the NA devs/reps in regards to what is going on with the game. There is a whole lot more info out there if you know where to look, but we should not have to go hunt it down and translate it, that should be the role of the NA reps.

Think before you speak.

(now lets flame each other since you brought this on yourself by attacking me)

The NA reps repeatedly post official translations of both Yoshi-P's frequent posts as well as the devs and JP reps. You've been following the dev tracker right? Then you should know this.

On top of the official translations coming in a timely manner, we have Reinheart who is taking time to post quick translations of all the JP-side dev posts.

[LillithaFenimore]

/facepalm at Op....

[LillithaFenimore]

Just read the OP.

So SE isn't communicating with us to a sufficient degree now?

Just saw this...Lewis Black is the bomb Heh, especially on Nazi Turretz *sp*

[grandm]

this thread really needs a new title

something like :

WHO STARTED THE FLAME WAR? AND WHO IS THE REAL TROLL?

that title would be more on topic

[normalforce]

this thread really needs a new title

something like :

WHO STARTED THE FLAME WAR? AND WHO IS THE REAL TROLL?

that title would be more on topic

Stay tuned for the shocking ending!

[yukikaze_yanagi]

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