[dev1212] More Info Dev's? What do we the players want?

[LicontAshontear]

the problem is you view anyone who doesnt agree with you as not being worthy and not being allowed to post in your threads

thats not how the real world works, people will have opinions other then your own and they are fully entitled to them

trolls are not those who disagree, they are those who go out of their way to flame people on purpose


now let me ask you this, you talk about not wanting to be bashed, yet thats ALL you seem to do to people you dont like who disagree with you, i dare you to go find any thread i post in where i go out of my way to call people childish names
and yet i look aty every other post you make and see just that


this is why you get flamed by alot of people, its all about attitude, and maybe you should really evaluate yourself and how you act if you want to be treated a certain way

If you actually go and reread the stuff that YOU YOURSELF posted towards me you would find that you are being negative and bashing ME, I have never STARTED the bashing, someone else does and you yourself cannot admit to starting the fight previously. Even AFTER others jumped in and bashed you for starting the fight, you simply started fighting them. Hypocrite.

[TheVedis]

If you actually go and reread the stuff that YOU YOURSELF posted towards me you would find that you are being negative and bashing ME, I have never STARTED the bashing, someone else does and you yourself cannot admit to starting the fight previously. Even AFTER others jumped in and bashed you for starting the fight, you simply started fighting them. Hypocrite.

ive been rather civil

yes i will make jabs at people, but theres a point when its just downright going too far which you have clearly demonstrated, now im not making any assumptions as to how old you are, but maybe it is time to leave the playground antics behind and talk to people more civily.
calling people retards, telling them to pretty much F off every time you dont get your way isnt gonna win you any friends and its only gonna get you the wrong kind of attention

also, alot of the people bashing me, are known trolls in the forums(some of which do go out of their way to defend other people they feel are trolling with them)

stick around for a bit longer and youll start to see this pattern too


also, if im a troll just looking to start fights, how do you explain the fact i didnt say anything negative in your other thread? you see, i go with the thread, the tone of it, if you want negative repl;ies, you will get them, its all in the attitude of the OP
if you cant make a good post thatl bring forth meaningful discussion, expect arguing instead, or to just be outright ignored(especialy in the cases of threads people feel are not relevant and have nothing to discuss)

[yukikaze_yanagi]

You could not bashed nothing in your opening post, but it remains malicius stating devs not communicate. If you're looking for a chat with devs, you probably just end disilluded, they can't reply to posts aimed to them, nor they can deliver something on new raids until it's set on stone. This work for every other aspect of the game/forum.

[LicontAshontear]

ive been rather civil

yes i will make jabs at people, but theres a point when its just downright going too far which you have clearly demonstrated, now im not making any assumptions as to how old you are, but maybe it is time to leave the playground antics behind and talk to people more civily.
calling people retards, telling them to pretty much F off every time you dont get your way isnt gonna win you any friends and its only gonna get you the wrong kind of attention

also, alot of the people bashing me, are known trolls in the forums(some of which do go out of their way to defend other people they feel are trolling with them)

stick around for a bit longer and youll start to see this pattern too


also, if im a troll just looking to start fights, how do you explain the fact i didnt say anything negative in your other thread? you see, i go with the thread, the tone of it, if you want negative repl;ies, you will get them, its all in the attitude of the OP
if you cant make a good post thatl bring forth meaningful discussion, expect arguing instead, or to just be outright ignored(especialy in the cases of threads people feel are not relevant and have nothing to discuss)

edit: probly shouldnt have replied, didnt notice who was OP was til i did....stop whining so much, just cuz you dont get the info YOU want doesnt mean there is a lack of communication, also comm reps are on vacation this week so you will get no where with this right now

^this is what started the war between you and me in this particular thread. Still think you didn't start it?

[TheVedis]

^this is what started the war between you and me in this particular thread. Still think you didn't start it?

i know what i said, and it was said to prove a point, maybe be a wakeup call for you that you are posting without having proper info YET AGAIN
this has been an underlying theme in several of your posts

you didnt have the info, and you posted, and then got mad when it was pointed out to you, and started yelling like someone stole your lolipop

[LicontAshontear]

You could not bashed nothing in your opening post, but it remains malicius stating devs not communicate. If you're looking for a chat with devs, you probably just end disilluded, they can't reply to posts aimed to them, nor they can deliver something on new raids until it's set on stone. This work for every other aspect of the game/forum.

I admit I did not know that the Devs had previously stated they would not reply to any post directed at them. But my second half of the OP still stands. Again, if you have nothing to contribute then please leave the thread.

[LicontAshontear]

i know what i said, and it was said to prove a point, maybe be a wakeup call for you that you are posting without having proper info YET AGAIN
this has been an underlying theme in several of your posts

you didnt have the info, and you posted, and then got mad when it was pointed out to you, and started yelling like someone stole your lolipop

did not have the info? did you even read the post? I asked a question of the player base what they wanted to see, so yah...seeing as how only 1 or 2 people posted useful things yes I do not have the info. Again, if you have nothing to contribute then leave.

[LicontAshontear]

Also last time I checked SE wants us to discuss these sorts of things and submit feedback to the Dev team. So I say to the Dev team and everyone else, if you want proper feedback then we need more information about what you are trying to accomplish or what you have in mind. Simply saying "do this to leave feedback" does us no good, feedback on what? All it says is we have 2 new raids in the works. What kind of raids? Will they be low man? Endgame? 8 man? 4 man? 6 man? Solo? This is the area in which I would like to see more info.

[dev1212] New instanced raids

[dev1212] New instanced raids

Third release of instanced raids
Fourth release of instanced raids


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[TheVedis]

Also last time I checked SE wants us to discuss these sorts of things and submit feedback to the Dev team. So I say to the Dev team and everyone else, if you want proper feedback then we need more information about what you are trying to accomplish or what you have in mind. Simply saying "do this to leave feedback" does us no good, feedback on what? All it says is we have 2 new raids in the works. What kind of raids? Will they be low man? Endgame? 8 man? 4 man? 6 man? Solo? This is the area in which I would like to see more info.

the answer is simple

that they will reveal to us what these 2 raids in 1.21 are when they are ready to

asking alot doesnt get the answer to come any quicker, they are under a NDS themselves and can lose their jobs if they give us info that they have not been cleared to give us

hell we just got 1.20, lets work with what we got now, and wait til they are ready for the reveals for the next patch(which should be about 6 weeks away)

info will come on those, just give it some time, but as of right now, all we know is there are 2 of them, and they are coming

[yukikaze_yanagi]

Don't try to look at me like someone speaking just to do it, dude. I don't know what "we" want to see, mostly because it's unpredicable, and we don't even know what shape this raids will have (and feedbacks are supposed to be given AFTER the adjustments, since we don't have test servers*). The only thing I want it's something where people is FORCED to bring different classes/jobs in (since this shit of OP-only party it's, well, shit). And maybe this 2 new raids to be both for 45+

*i say this because, before 1.20, people seen description of the ability "the next spell will have longer range" (aka, resonance) and started yell "OMG this skill it's useless +1).
Before know the cone shape of thm been hammered, and even see the new fights...which proven this skill is very useful