Why people don't appreciate high dps?

[Cabalabob]

Personally my comm goes to someone who performs above and beyond their role, dps or not.

Comms go to dps for things like use of goad, proper use of diversion/lucid dreaming, use of feint/addle, a mana shift/palisade/apocatastasis, warden's paean/nature's minne, shadewalker, cures/raises.

Healers get it for bringing high dps and no deaths.

Tanks get it for proper CD use and stance dancing appropriately to increase dps.

High dps as a dps is nice, but that's your job, I'm not gonna praise you for doing your job, I'm gonna praise you for helping make everyone else's job easier while doing your job.

And I know these are the things that get me a lot of comms when I run dungeons because it's the things that other people can see and appreciate.

[Snow_Princess]

It's indeed hard to judge a DPS-player perfomance without 3rd party software, like "you-know-what".

The only time it is hard is when both DPS are good or both are bad. In the case both are good, stuff dies FAST, you just can't pinpoint what the main cause is, and may be hard figuring out who to com (bonus points if the healer is able spam aoe on top of it for trash pulls) When both dps are bad it is a slug fest. It it takes is experence in knowing how fast things can die, and rotations, like you can clearly see a BLM is bad when they are doing Blizzard III> fire I >blizzard III > fire I .. etc... (saw that in a detlascape normal 4.0. , 4 days ago) On that note, please have a tutorial for potion users -.- or some kind of hall of novice gating before allowed to enter level cap content.

With the combination of looking for buffs/dots brd- (bites/strightshot )DRG- (Heavy thrust buff/percing debuffs,) BLM- (What they cast + thunder debuff) SAM- (at least damage buff/depending sam should have 2 buffs while monster has a dot on it) RDM- ( never hardcasting aero/thunder/ seeing duel cast frequently) MNK- (GL3) If you are target cycling seeing enmity values plus the above, you can get a general idea if someone is doing well without prasers, along with having a sense on how long stuff should be dying. Some jobs are simply easier to see, like you know if a BLM is casting fire IV in a pack or fire II without looking at the cast bar, you can see if a brd is able frequent rain of death, so on. Sounds are also a hint, as some really stand out (death blossom) Also single target DPS on packs will or be very close to taking hate of one of the monsters while others have no enmity by the single target focus person whatsoever. I tend to speak up on this because not only is it low dps but can bring headaches to tank/healer.

I do com DPS, and do appreciate good dps, but most players you meet in df are well... a lot of times none are deserving a com?
Healing only/ frequent casting nothings > no com for healer
in 8/24 and I feel I am solo healing? > no com for healer

Tank not new and will not mega pull with 2 good dps and healer? >no com
Tank new and showing effort? > com

[RichardButte]

Why people don't value high dps? Is that because the game lacks official damage parser and you can't see who's doing what damage

You answered your own question, here.

The DPS could be so good that they down each boss in less than 20 seconds and I still wouldn't know which of the two DPS in the dungeon was ACTUALLY doing that damage.

I'd gladly hand comms to DPS players who do amazing damage, but again, I have no way of knowing who it actually was (without using a 3rd party program, I mean).

[AlphaFox]

I've always had a weird outlook on giving my commendations. Long as you actually said "Hello/Hi" then you got my commendation "o/" does not count. In fact that kinda annoys me, don't know why. Other than that I just give it to my opposite unless they are completely incompetent for whatever reason. Tank<>Heal / DPS<>DPS

[Nowakii]

Mostly because not many people run parses, specially on regular dungeons, so there's no way they could know how good some1's DPS was, meanwhile if no1 died means healer did his job, if tank kept aggro and dit not spin the boss liek crazy, means he did his job... Usually what i do (im a healer) is:
For dungeons:
-If the tank made big pulls (i like them) i give him my Rec.
--If he didnt, then i rec the DPS who did better Damage-wise

for Trials:
-If the co-healer did his job (AKA i was NOT solo healing everything) i give him the rec.

[GDFletcher]

Playing my Main Tank - I run with a specific healer so my comm tends to go to a DPS unless I am in trial roulette and the 2nd healer (if our fc aint slotting 2 healers) will get it
Playing my Healer: I credit the Tank with the comm, their job is to make sure I don't die during a run - if the Tank starts taking more than our make up can handle then I will comm the DPS for their work
Playing my RDM: I will usually decide on Healer or Tank

Most time when playing on Tank, the DPS are trying to rush off and pull everything themselves so in that case, no you don't deserve the comm, but then there are times when a player is new and a DPS may take the time to talk through tactics to help the tank and healer deal with their job in which case that player will always get a comm from me, because they have taken the time to go through tactics.

But it is just a fact of the game there are less Tanks and Healers and thus you are commending them for doing that role

[Dzian]

While just dps may not be appreciated I get hundreds of commendatons as dps classes for various things.

for example towards the end of heavensward if my ex roulette put my blm in sohm al hard i'd quite frequently get 2 of the 3 commendations because of well timed use of limit breaks to smash the second add pop on the final boss or something like that.

in that same dungeon i'd frequently get them on the second boss boss as a ninja because I never got hit by his attacks and dodged every one correctly..
using shadewalker on tanks in bosses / smokescreen other dps, nearly always got me there commendations as well. and being alert and tentative with my fellow party members tp and goading as necessary.

on my bard i'd frequently getthem for using foe reqs or paoens as and when necessary even if only for the healers benefit.....

all of these things got me hundreds if not thousands of commendations over time.

if all a dps does is dps then they deserve the commendation about as much as a healer that only heals or a tank that only tanks.. how high or low that dps is doesn't matter in the same way as whether or not a tank makes the best use of his cooldowns or not...

but when players on any job step outside there primary function I think it does often get noticed...

if you're a ninja and you do 5k dps and just 5k dps... you might not get many commendations

however
if your a ninja and do 4k dps. but also frequently toss out goads on fellow party members when there tp is low. smokescreen other dps if theyre hate is getting high. shadewalker tanks and other such things. then you'll probably get a lot more commendations. even though you did less dps.

a lot of dps are the same. I get a fair few as samurai and recently got all 7 in a raid finder susano because the a healer said holy hell the sam is actually meditating and not just standing there waiting for the swrod to drop like every other sam they see...

[Deceptus]

Personally my comm goes to someone who performs above and beyond their role, dps or not.

Comms go to dps for things like use of goad, proper use of diversion/lucid dreaming, use of feint/addle, a mana shift/palisade/apocatastasis, warden's paean/nature's minne, shadewalker, cures/raises.

Healers get it for bringing high dps and no deaths.

Pretty much. DPS who never use lucid or diversion to lower their aggro and I can't go into a dps stance as a tank? No comm.

[Syrellaris]

People still give commendations then? Cuz I hardly see anyone give any at all. They all just dissappear as fast as they joined the dungeon these days not caring about commendations.

[s3ystic]

DPS is a dime a dozen that's why my DPS wait times are so long. No one wants to play tank or heals except people who like those roles, that's why they are an exception. Its hard to be a unique person in a non-unique classification. DPS will always be about their big numbers, their big damage, their glory. Its like me going around telling everyone how cool I am because I did this awesome thing for myself.

I play a tank, a heal and a dps role, just to clarify. I like seeing things from each perspective. I play dps specifically to get lost in the crowd, this doesn't mean I do my job poorly but it does means I only have to worry about myself. Therefore I don't care if I don't get any pats on the back or blue ribbons for my damage output, no matter how long or hard I have worked on my rotations. The big numbers are gratification enough and short clear times makes everyone happy, but in a sea of other "uber elite big damage dealers" who all think they are "uber elite big damage dealers" most people's accolades are going to go to someone else.

If its any consolation, watch the healer and tank get frustrated if all their DPS are dead on a dungeon they just cant face roll without them. You will see an appreciation for the DPS then. I have seen that happen several times now.