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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarteck View Post
    GUys, I've been trying to follow this thread, but I'm confused by one term I keep seeing over and over. What's a "premade?"
    A party you make yourself before entering content in DF - it can either apply to having a full party (of 4 or 8 people) or just you with a few friends, so you'll still get randoms in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarteck View Post
    Also, why can't SE fix this another way? Why can't they make it so that people that skip the long cutscenes suddenly have a trap door open, drop them to a secret area with extra content, and let them fight their way through that until all cutscenes are completed? Get extra items or whatever from it, have it geared towards "high-level", maybe even auto-unsync it until the last player viewing cutscenes is finished. Or some other crazy stuff like that?
    Two reasons basically:
    First they dont want to revisit that old content and put effort into it - as harsh as it sounds: its not worth their time. Its unlikely they're actually losing money over this or anything. It sucks, but its one bad experience people will have in this game - an important one, I get that, but its still not enough of a problem. They've learned from it, they've moved on and so did every single player who went through that for the first time.

    And second: I doubt that thats a fix - its not just "standing around doing nothing" that annoys people there, even though thats a big-factor. Its also that it takes 30-45 minutes (+15 minutes or so for the actual dungeon). The average dungeon only takes 15-20 minutes. People want to be done by then, they dont want to spend an hour in a dungeon.

    This thing really isnt to win. It would need re-modelling on their side but its not important enough to do that, sorry. Again: Yes, I know grande finale ruined for first time players and so on. It does suck, no one is denying that.
    I really believe the best fix here is to just give out a warning message like we're getting before long cutscenes, so newbies can prepare and possibly get a decent party together. Or, if they dont care (enough), just take DF.
    Or they can probably change it to a 4 man dungeon - it doesnt really need 8 people to begin with, never did. And 4 people are a lot easier to control than 8...
    But again - probably just not worth the effort.
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    Last edited by Vidu; 08-08-2017 at 11:06 AM.