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  1. #51
    Player
    Millen1's Avatar
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    Aug 2013
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    Gradania
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    Character
    Xiao Ming
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    I have been healing since ARR beta. Started out healing on sch in SB, sch is my favorite job hands down and it was wrecked in SB. Everything I loved about sch was gone. Went over to astro, I like it but not sch. I did whm, which is fun in SB but again still not sch. Though I do really enjoy healing on all three jobs. The final nail for me was the df tanks that pulled as far as possible, on sch this could often be brutal and lead to wipes. Not so bad on astro or whm but I got tired of these tank pulls. As I do enjoy tanking on my drk in HW though I did not tank often. Now, I only tank on drk in SB. Main reason, I can control the pace of the dungeon run and not leave the healer hating it. Some healers like the smaller pulls, others ask my to go big on the pulls. Main theme here, I tank toward giving the healer a fun dungeon run. If it is a new and learning healer, I work with them and I don't mind if that makes the dungeon run a bit longer. I sometimes take grief from dps for helping new healers, some dps have have vote kicked me, I can live with that. If I make the run suck for a new healer they may stop healing just as I did in Stormblood. If my FC or friends need a healer I am up for it but you won't find me healing in df and rarely in pf.

    Now I am on my way to getting the new drk tank mount (really excited about that), so I have no plans to go back to healing until that is done. After that, I still doubt I will heal again outside of helping friends or FC groups. I can't speak for others but I will not heal in df until sch is fixed and made right. Second, I get the sense sch dps will never come back, sucks but ok. Last, some df tanks with no meaningful gear pulling everything and wondering why we wiped. You know, that tank in Doma Castle that is mixed i260/i270 and never uses a def CD. Not saying all df tanks are lacking, I just seem to get my fair share tanks in need of help in leveling dungeons. I use to vote kick them for those mega pulls but that got old and so I am tanking until things change.

    Last, outside of what fixes certain healers may or may not need or get, healers should be like tanks in FFXIV and have a mount for each of the three healer jobs. That would bring me back into healing in df again. Healers are more or less like tanks and most want to play dps cause it is fun, not tank or heal. I really enjoy playing my blm. I would play it more if I could. I love my blm though when I get with friends they are always looking for a healers and sometimes a tank. Can't think of the last time we were lacking dps and I got to go blm.

    So, where are the healers in Stormblood? We are on vacation playing other jobs. I will get back to healing when it is both fun and rewarding. Always fun in ARR and HW even though not very rewarding compared to tank mount rewards. Currently healing in SB it is neither fun nor rewarding.
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    Last edited by Millen1; 08-10-2017 at 08:11 PM.

  2. #52
    Player RuleofThree's Avatar
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    Character
    Thessayn Svisast
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    I don't heal much anymore because I'm honestly tired of the 'no matter what you do, you are wrong mentality of it all.' Lean heavily on DPS and less healing in a dungeon, get bitched out by people that are too close to dying for their comfort. Lean heavily on Healing, get bitched out because you aren't DPSing enough. I posted pretty much the same thing in another post...someone will probably find it and insert a sarcastic comic regarding it...but its true as far as I'm concerned: If you play a healer, expect to be wrong, no matter what you do. Everything you do is wrong. End of story. I just got tired of that shit...if I'm going to be a dps...at least I'm going to have a red tag by my name..
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  3. #53
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    Connor's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Connor Whelan
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Personally I play Scholar a lot, especially in Savage, but I agree that there does seem to be a noticeable lack of healers. Half the time I just play it because DPS queues are too long and I start itching to do something.

    For me I just don't see the point in maining a healer.
    In any dungeon, raid, etc, the entirety of my time needs to be devoted to minimising GCD healing and maximising dps. But why do that as a healer when I can just jump to on Red Mage and do the exact same thing, except with a more interesting DPS rotation and no skills that I have to actively work on not using.
    And for that matter, I could just go on Bard(my current main like pretty much the entire community at this point) and play a well designed class with interesting DPS mechanics. I need to have pretty much the same knowledge as I would as a healer to use songs at the right time to get the best out of mitigation / DPS increases, so there's no real draw to be a healer.

    Ultimately, I don't see the point in playing a healer where I just have to DPS, when I could just play a DPS and have infinitely more fun. This is the reason I don't main healer, if I had to actively focus on healing and supporting the party instead of keeping up a lacklustre DPS rotation I'd probably never go back to DPS.

    Don't know if others share this view though. Obviously it's likely just to be confirmation bias, but I feel like I see more people who'd want healing changed
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    Last edited by Connor; 08-10-2017 at 08:35 PM.

  4. #54
    Player
    Tridus's Avatar
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by PhoLover View Post
    really? it seems healers are abundance on Excalibur. My FC has a static group but there are multiple healers/tanks wanting to join and not enough dps. Maybe it's just my FC :x?
    It varies by FC. My FC has lots of healers too, because everyone likes playing a healer when the rest of the group is friends. Duty Finder is different because of the random factor, some folks avoid it.
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  5. #55
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    Maku's Avatar
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    Maku Haikasu
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 70
    What are these healers you speak of? I thought the population had decided that the Blue people and Green people were just DPS with additional utility?
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    可愛い悪魔

  6. #56
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    Miu-Tiiu's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Amagi Ryukomura
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90

    Meowing WHM right here! X3

    I'm in a FC that lacks any activity. It was great and all when I joined our game about 2 months ago, created our young FC and then to see a few weeks later to go dead with only one other player still here. Because of that I have to rely on Duty Finder. I'm sad but life happens so can't be helped. I managed to talk my husband into playing since he loved FFVIII, he'll be joining with me soon.♥

    Been in pugs that doesn't say anything like what the rest of you were saying but I've been lucky maybe. I don't consider myself an excellent WHM, I'm still new but have worked on my rotations so that I rarely ever go low on my MP while keeping HP full, but doing the EX or Savage I don't think I'm ready. I'm still gearing my WHM. I would love to join an EX/Savage team out there, issues as I said is I'm new and don't think most teams would have the patience to teach. I do watch YouTube for EX/Savage to learn the mechanics so when I do go, at least I don't go in being completely clueless.
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    Pokes...♥

  7. #57
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    Tridus's Avatar
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Miu-Tiiu View Post
    Been in pugs that doesn't say anything like what the rest of you were saying but I've been lucky maybe.
    Honestly, its not as bad as people make it sound. A lot of posts on here are people venting about bad experiences. While they absolutely do happen, outside of the highest end content they're the exception rather than the rule. So don't let it sour you on stuff.
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  8. #58
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Dungeon hero SCH healer.

    Don't have time to raid unfortunately.
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  9. #59
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    New_Game_Plus's Avatar
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    Character
    Pollux Luminous
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Culinarian Lv 90
    WHM main here.

    Sadly, I'm too terrified to do savage content and have never done so, pfft.
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  10. #60
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    loreleidiangelo's Avatar
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    Lorelei Diangelo
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Miu-Tiiu View Post
    I would love to join an EX/Savage team out there, issues as I said is I'm new and don't think most teams would have the patience to teach. I do watch YouTube for EX/Savage to learn the mechanics so when I do go, at least I don't go in being completely clueless.
    Eh, you'd be surprised how many FCs might be willing to help a new player go through the ropes if it means they'll have a permanent addition to their static team. The fights are a lot easier to teach once 7 other people have the mechanics down pat.

    I shouldn't even say FCs, as there's a lot of statics that are made up of people from all sorts of varying Free Companies - there's less focus on all being in the same guild thanks to things like Linkshells allowing easy communication between raid members.
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