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    Take it easy, Tanks.

    I've started to get a hang out of healing since I returned from my break. However, holy crap on pulling 3-4 packs of mobs then darting ahead. I try my hardest not to cast regen on you pre trash pull but when you are sinking faster then Katy Perry's career then slow down a bit.

    I know most of you have done these dungeons many times. However, be courteous and look out for those who are just returning to the game. I have had only two wipes, thankfully. However, slow it down a bit. Especially in the new dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsai View Post
    I've started to get a hang out of healing since I returned from my break. However, holy crap on pulling 3-4 packs of mobs then darting ahead. I try my hardest not to cast regen on you pre trash pull but when you are sinking faster then Katy Perry's career then slow down a bit.

    I know most of you have done these dungeons many times. However, be courteous and look out for those who are just returning to the game. I have had only two wipes, thankfully. However, slow it down a bit. Especially in the new dungeons.
    cant do it ha , 3 add pulls are just a waste of time ha
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    cant do it ha , 3 add pulls are just a waste of time ha
    You're part of the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    You're part of the problem.
    Im actually not any biiig pull in a dungeon that can possibly done Ive done them, I use to do small pulls as I started off as a healer first but what I realized was that big pulls was apart of the game and I had to get use to them so everyone else should as well. The issue is that lots of tanks dont use their invincible when they should hg, living dead ,etc and healers dont use rouse on scholar, the new divine seal etc we have the tools for these pulls people just dont plan for them when they should because its standard practice by now
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Im actually not any biiig pull in a dungeon that can possibly done Ive done them, I use to do small pulls as I started off as a healer first but what I realized was that big pulls was apart of the game and I had to get use to them so everyone else should as well. The issue is that lots of tanks dont use their invincible when they should hg, living dead ,etc and healers dont use rouse on scholar, the new divine seal etc we have the tools for these pulls people just dont plan for them when they should because its standard practice by now
    Sorry, no. I disagree with this. Just because you play one way does not mean that you can force your playstyle on others, or tell others that they just need to get used to it. That goes for everyone. When you are paired with randoms, you need to take several things into consideration when doing large pulls versus small pulls.
    --Party comp? Do we have good AOE? Are your DPS actually using their AOE?
    --Are you geared? Can you handle the pull? Do you have cooldowns for the pull? How about after for the next pull?
    --Is your healer geared? Can they handle the pull? Are you doing content that gives them access to their own major cooldowns (Bene, Tetra, Lustrate, etc.)?
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    S/he wasn't asking for a 3-add pull. And yeah, such a waste of time... that 30 additional seconds. I completely understand where s/he is coming from. There's a difference in pulling several groups at a time and darting off to the first gate -- especially now that the concept of defensive cooldowns eludes a majority of tanks in dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novak_04 View Post
    S/he wasn't asking for a 3-add pull. And yeah, such a waste of time... that 30 additional seconds. I completely understand where s/he is coming from. There's a difference in pulling several groups at a time and darting off to the first gate -- especially now that the concept of defensive cooldowns eludes a majority of tanks in dungeons.
    That's a large portion of my complaint is the huge number of tanks who don't use defensive cooldowns. Not my full complaint but I big portion of frustration. I like to use my cards, frequently. Also, contributing to the DPS. However, if I have spend every global cooldown to keep you alive then it's time to rethink and form a better strategy.
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    If I slow down, you might be fine with it, the next guy will want me to go faster. The guy after him will want a slower pace than you...

    If you want control over how much is pulled, the best way of doing that is to queue as tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    If I slow down, you might be fine with it, the next guy will want me to go faster. The guy after him will want a slower pace than you...

    If you want control over how much is pulled, the best way of doing that is to queue as tank.
    Or the healer could let you drop to the floor to the adds. You're not going to pull a lot of it if you're going to die every time it happens...and the healer decides who lives or dies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Or the healer could let you drop to the floor to the adds. You're not going to pull a lot of it if you're going to die every time it happens...and the healer decides who lives or dies.
    The healer only wins that game if the tank stops pulling large, a tank can very well continue to pull and die if they want to challenge you.

    Power plays don't do anyone any good and are bad for parties in general.
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