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  1. #1
    Player
    Leigaon's Avatar
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    Zara Diaspora
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    Excalibur
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    Carpenter Lv 63
    Sorry you went through this, I wouldn't say sprint made tanks even worse. They just use what's available to them. They're in a rush, for no good reason half the time. No different them rushing off now than it was when I was using StoneSkin II and they'd haul butt.

    Problem was there too, just in a different way. It's a player thing, a rushing thing. For their own reasons. Half the time it's not a good one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowblind View Post
    I'll never understand why a tank would use sprint in the first place in a dungeon after aggroing a mob. Just run with your team . . . problem (mostly) solved.
    This is true, stay with the group and run the dungeon. I believe people want to rush it because they're tired of running roulettes. If that's the case, stand back and do something else. I just got back from a month or so break. When you take out the mentality of "I need to have everything 100% ..100% of the time." it's so very relaxing, and fun.

    These new dungeons are set up really well, and if anything shows that we need a QoL patch for the older dungeons.
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    Last edited by Leigaon; 09-06-2017 at 10:25 PM.

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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Malboro
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    Marauder Lv 79
    Sprint is love, sprint is life.

    Sprint on CD is too good, especially as tank/SAM. Cuts out so much travel time.
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    Last edited by Thunda_Cat_SMASH; 08-05-2017 at 12:46 AM.

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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Sprint is love, sprint is life.
    Holy crap we agree on something
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    Sena Ikaza
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 70
    To be honest, it sounds like you're just an awful healer. When I get into a dungeon, I expect everyone to be ready to go. I still personally wait for protect, but once I see that I'm sprinting and I'm going. I just want dungeons to take as little time as possible. If you seriously couldn't reach the tank after them having time to pull a bunch of stuff, and go through their invuln CD, you were doing something wrong. Please be more flexible in parties. If you see the tank immediately start sprinting just stop typing and start following them immediately with sprint up yourself.
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nikubun View Post
    To be honest, it sounds like you're just an awful healer.
    I'm an awful healer for being unable to catch up to a tank who sprinted away out of range while I was typing, and sprint wasn't enough to catch up? What do you suggest I do instead? Teleport to the tank?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nikubun View Post
    If you see the tank immediately start sprinting just stop typing and start following them immediately with sprint up yourself.
    I am not very good at typing so I was looking down at my keyboard a bit. You going to tell me to take typing classes just to satisfy an impatient tank's needs?
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    Adaire Crimson
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I'm an awful healer for being unable to catch up to a tank who sprinted away out of range while I was typing, and sprint wasn't enough to catch up? What do you suggest I do instead? Teleport to the tank?



    I am not very good at typing so I was looking down at my keyboard a bit. You going to tell me to take typing classes just to satisfy an impatient tank's needs?
    Well sort of a tangent but yeah...take typing classes. The time invested will more than pay for itself in the long run, if you ever need to use a qwerty keyboard at all.

    It's not reasonable to expect someone to know that you're randomly looking down at your keyboard away from the screen for 10+ seconds after you type "yes" to his question "Can I pull big now?". Standing there hardcasting selene/eos is going to negate any time saved via selene's speed buff.

    Even worse that you'd post on a forum shaming him for it.
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    Yesui Himaa
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    Scholar Lv 70
    I've carried basically every EX run I've been a part of since SB dropped, yes. I don't mind working hard for a pull, I do mind blowing literally everything on a tank who doesn't use defensives/is undergeared but pulls like they aren't.
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    Kumori Kumo
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    I mean, I might pop Sprint to grab some additional mobs and kite a little so the damage doesn't rack up too hard before we're all in place, but I always make sure I'm being followed first. And for the most part I like to save it for fights, 'cause it's more useful to dodge AOEs/mechanics.
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    Felix Feliday
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Tanks are a bit too used to if they are far ahead of the party the healer can sprint to catch-up.

    Tanks need to start learning that if there's a gap between them and the healer and they pop sprint now. That gap isn't going away.

    If a tank pulls big he needs to make sure the healer is right behind him. The point of pulling big isn't just to pull big, it's to kill faster.

    If because the tank sprints ahead and the healer barely catches up and has to pop every cooldown just to save the tank from Living dead and is going to be stuck cure bombing for the rest of the fight without even the smallest opportunity to do any AoE DPS himself...the tank is slowing down the run by trying to be sonic the hedgehog.

    I'm not even saying that the tank shouldn't be pig pulling, in fact he should, but for example Scholar can essentially apply all of their AoE DoTs and AoE DPS while moving DURING the pull (with just 1 GCD to cast Miasma). If the tank is half the dungeon in front of the healer and the DPS out of their attack range because he popped sprint what's the point...

    It's the same thing with those that sprint off right when the gate drops before they get protect. "Oh they can just protect me while I'm fighting" Yes, and because of that you've just lost some 500-1,000 potency damage because the healer is now casting protect instead of DPSing the monsters and depending on the size of the pull likely won't be able to for the rest of the fight because he now has to heal the damage you took from not having protect...
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    Last edited by Supersun; 08-05-2017 at 05:08 AM.

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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersun View Post
    "Oh they can just protect me while I'm fighting" Yes, and because of that you've just lost some 500-1,000 potency damage
    While I don't do that...

    2k+ AoE trumps 1k I'm pretty sure.
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