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    Anyone Else Find Sprint No Longer Using TP Making Tanks Even Worse?

    I just had a lovely experience of a tank sprinting off while I was typing and he pulled an enormous amount. Even with sprint I had no hope of catching up until he stopped but by then he had less than 20% hp. When we wipe all I get told was "you panicked" "use sprint" and "I had Living Dead on, you had plenty of time to heal".

    This is far from the first time I have seen this happen as a healer or as a dps watching this happen to another healer.

    Sprint used to be my panic button for "oh s*** the tank has ran off ahead without waiting for anyone" but now that they can also sprint, I got nothing.

    I can heal chain pulling tanks no problem provided I'm actually in range to heal them. Unfortunately many tanks tunnel while they pull and don't consider that healing has a limited range. Many also seem unaware of their hp, and pull additional packs when they have less than 30% hp.

    Honestly this is very much making me lose my taste for duty roulette. I pugged no problem throughout HW but the change to sprint in SB is seriously making me consider refusing to heal any dungeons without a tank from my fc.

    In HW I very rarely saw healer in need for duty roulette, now I see it so often in SB. I'm sure in a lot of cases sprinting tanks have something to do with it.

    I know nothing is going to change, but hell I'll vent here and maybe some other healers will too and we'll all feel a bit better.

    EDIT:To those telling me to sprint....read the post. I did sprint.

    I even managed to type while auto sprinting to ask the tank to stay in range but he made no effort to. He either didn't see what I said or chose to ignore it.
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    Last edited by Penthea; 08-11-2017 at 12:08 AM.

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    I'll never understand why a tank would use sprint in the first place in a dungeon after aggroing a mob. Just run with your team . . . problem (mostly) solved.

    Anyway assuming you as the healer are geared properly and using heals over DPSing, if the tank still dies because he pulled a million mobs then the fault lies 100% with the tank. Grinding dungeons in this game shouldn't be stressful to anyone involved. If it is then you're doing it wrong haha.
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    What exactly were you typing that took so long he got far enough to have enough adds to mulch him? Was it important or relevant to the dungeon/your abilities in the dungeon?

    Pulling big probably won't ever change given the way this game works. Now that sprint is free, I like when tanks sprint because we should all sprint and be done with the dungeon sooner.

    Sprinting with a pull also means less time in transition and more time keeping aggro while dps go to town.
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    Yep happened to me a a few times, i was cheking loot after the boss, and the tank just decided to sprint all the way to next gate, by the time i got there it was too late, and im like "you know... i wasnt even there......"
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    I've seen this as well. However, my stance is if you sprint way ahead leaving me and the rest of the party behind, and you die, that's on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    What exactly were you typing that took so long he got far enough to have enough adds to mulch him? Was it important or relevant to the dungeon/your abilities in the dungeon?
    Just before the boss I changed my fairy to Selene. After the boss I was changing my fairy back to Eos. The tank asked if he could chain pull and I said yes and I quickly explained that I was changing fairy because I didn't need the extra heals on bosses. Fairly often tanks think I switch back to Eos assuming I'm uncomfortable with chain pulling, when in fact I switch to Selene to make boss killing a bit faster. As I was typing "just changing fairys as I don't need the extra heals on bosses" he pulled. While sprinting on auto-run I managed to type "stay in range though" he continued as if I said nothing, at that point he had less than 50% hp.
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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
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    Eh, in this case I can see his train of thought. You have the go ahead so he raced out. If there were some way to have the chat box show when someone is typing maybe there\\'d be less confusion there.

    All I can really say is the old correlation =/= causation adage, and tanks have acted like that (pulling way too much too fast) for a long time. That said it is a team effort and situational awareness is something tanks should have...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Eh, in this case I can see his train of thought. You have the go ahead so he raced out. If there were some way to have the chat box show when someone is typing maybe there\\'d be less confusion there.
    Alright but he obviously didn't look to see if I was actually in a position to heal, and he obviously didn't look at the chat box or he completely dismissed what I said about staying in range. He didn't even seem to be looking at his hp. It was woefully low before he was even finished the pull.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nowakii View Post
    Yep happened to me a a few times, i was cheking loot after the boss, and the tank just decided to sprint all the way to next gate, by the time i got there it was too late, and im like "you know... i wasnt even there......"
    Yea seen that happen to other healers many times. I personally end up not looking at any loot until the next fight is nearly over while there is very little to heal, and it is because of chain pulling tanks who act like they're soloing the instance.
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    Last edited by Penthea; 08-05-2017 at 12:03 AM.

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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Yeah like I said, situational awareness is something the tank in question seems to have been lacking.
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    *Start Casting Protect*
    *Tank Sprints off*
    *Sigh* Gonna be one of those days.

    It's definitely worse now than it used to be. At least before if they ran away, you could use Sprint as a gap closer. When they use it? GG.
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