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  1. #11
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    Xeronia's Avatar
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    Xeronia Alden
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    Exodus
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I would sooner see a buff to Physick and Drain then a nerf to Vercure. Honestly to me the thing that need to be looked at is Verraise but I will admit that is me saying that as an angry Summoner.
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  2. #12
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    Jkap_Goat's Avatar
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    Jkap Goat
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    Gilgamesh
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    Weaver Lv 80
    Red mage Vercure it's fine where it's at, it's born from White magic for that reason they have a better cure than SMN.
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  3. #13
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    TheLenrir's Avatar
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    Irisu Kyouko
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Xeronia View Post
    I would sooner see a buff to Physick and Drain then a nerf to Vercure. Honestly to me the thing that need to be looked at is Verraise but I will admit that is me saying that as an angry Summoner.
    You and me both. First time I use Vercure I immediately switched back to SMN to remind myself I wasn't getting trolled and Physick got buffed somehow, but nah, same crappy 'ayy 3 digit heal.'
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  4. #14
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    Bravo Whiskey
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    Ravana
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Oh yeah totally lol

    I wish that stupid mana big never existed, the damage RDM could do because of that has skewed what the community thinks their damage is, even now that its fixed.
    You're right, RDM is a super hard job to play with bad utility and sub-par DPS.

    Completely correct.
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  5. #15
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    Xeronia Alden
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    Exodus
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jkap_Goat View Post
    Red mage Vercure it's fine where it's at, it's born from White magic for that reason they have a better cure than SMN.
    Except Physick is not White magic. Summoner and Scholar both control magic based of formulas, strategy, and algorithms. I never bought that lore reasoning due to that. They could at least add a trait to turn it into Sustain on Summoner instead of it being a useless button.
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  6. #16
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Cerberus
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    You're right, RDM is a super hard job to play with bad utility and sub-par DPS.

    Completely correct.
    so you suggesting that RDM on the logs are all bad?
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  7. #17
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    You're right, RDM is a super hard job to play with bad utility and sub-par DPS.

    Completely correct.
    Damage isn't subpar, it's right where it should be. It's utility is largely forgettable once people git gud at which point make your RDM go BLM. It's complexity isn't in the job but in its execution really, finding where you can slide every last melee combo in, every cac/displace, and never dropping a gcd when possible.

    It's not a difficult job by any stretch, but people who know it's minor intricacies will always outdo "lulz look at me i can dualcast veraero so op kek"
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  8. #18
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    Frost_Trunks's Avatar
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    Frost Trunks
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    Leviathan
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    Lancer Lv 80
    They won't nerf verCure. It would make some of the solo job content REALLY hard not being able to cure yourself properly. If they nerf it, they will have to adjust the content. Why the hell do you care anyway? It's not like RDMs are trying to queue up as a healer for content. If you have an issue with healing yourself as another job, level your chocobo and put in healer stance. I can tank for days with my choco in healer stance. And again... STOP calling to NERF jobs. BUFF OTHER JOBS. This way we ALL win.
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  9. #19
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    Character
    Kaylee Frye
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    I'm not sure what the plan is for RDM in FFXIV, overall. In FFXI rdms were op. We could solo things that normally took 6-18 people to kill. So far, the FFXIV RDM seems equally powerful, though it takes far less skill to play it here. As usual Squeenix went too fa,r and now BLM and SMN both are getting pushed aside for RDM, which leads to these "please nerf RDM" threads that pop up every other day. I say, bring blm and smn up instead of bringing RDM down. It's a fun job to play, let people enjoy it.
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  10. #20
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Coeurl
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    Machinist Lv 80
    That's the thing though Zarabeth. BLM is already far and away the better caster than RDM, sitting comfortably between second and third place in every savage fight. Once prog is over and dualcast raise useless, RDM is tossed out for BLM if they ever needed the RDM in the first place.

    SMN could still use some smoothing out as well though, but I agree with you on the end: RDM is in a good place.
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