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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draxis_Fallspear View Post
    I don't remember people bitching when WAR and SCH were soloing content. I remember people being impressed, but not really asking for nerfs.

    It's not like anyone is soloing current content.
    Wrong. There were a LOT of complaints regarding those two jobs and the fact that they could solo hard content that no other job could.
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    Draxis Fallspear
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    OP: Does POTD work differently after level 100? If not, you don't even have to level or gear RDM. You can literally just unlock the job and go for it. So you just want to make it harder for everyone to do this because... you don't like Red Mage?
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    Last edited by Draxis_Fallspear; 08-05-2017 at 02:54 AM. Reason: Clarify Who I'm talking to

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    Qt Melon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draxis_Fallspear View Post
    Does POTD work differently after level 100? If not, you don't even have to level or gear RDM. You can literally just unlock the job and go for it. So you just want to make it harder for everyone to do this because... you don't like Red Mage?
    Not sure what PoTD has to do with this post.

    I don't think it's "I hate RDM" but people want balance where each class feels more viable. ie Class Balance. If one class has a lot more reasons to be around due to punishment/reward for playing the class other people tend to go into hyperbole about a class being "garbage/trash" or "don't bring it to raid".
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    Drae Wellenbrecher
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    Ragnarok
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    Let me get this straight: you want Vercure to be removed because it allows RDM to solo content but you can't? What kind of stupid reason is that.
    Your post sounds more like free RDM hate than legit nerf reason.
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    Aleph Alpha
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    The fflogs percentiles for rdm might be a bit skewed considering rdm's ability to save bad pulls and still clear. There are probably way more unclean pulls that ended up as a clear with rdm compared to blm for example. My group had 13 deaths in our weekly o3s, with our rdm doing 9x verraise, but we still cleared. A bad pull like that won't end up as a clear if we brought a smn/blm.
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    Adaire Crimson
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    The reason RDM dps gets lower in harder content is because of how disgustingly OP dualcast-raise is...they are pretty much a required raid spot because of their ability to make deaths even in savage content trivial.

    There wouldn't be nearly as much savage clears right now if RDM couldn't raise. Progression is pretty much being balanced around instant-cast raises, which makes RDM a required progression class for most parties.

    Obviously the solution is to buff everyone else's raising abilities. Notice that giant thread about giving BLM's raise? Paladins should get some sort of raise too, change warrior's shake it off to a raise ability while we're at it.
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    Last edited by Dregenfox; 08-05-2017 at 02:33 AM.

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    Lilila Lila
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    Your thesis falls apart when Red Mages in the upper 90 to 100th percentile are still fairly low. Or are you claiming every party a RDM is in ever had people dying left and right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zzzlol94 View Post
    There's no doubt that RDM's ability to solo content is due to Vercure being overpowered.
    Yeah! Nerf RDM in all the other content for PoTD! That makes a lot of sense! I love your made up statistic at the bottom too!
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Considering how easily boss 2-shots you on potd 150+, vercure is totally OP, not to mention that the guy that's attempting that has said that you want to avoid using vercre as much as possible because you are giving up tons of dmg for it
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    Clown Conductor
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    Lamia
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    After looking at the video for the 180 boss rdm is probably the only class that can solo potd right now. Sustain potion isn't enough for that meteor spam. Which in hindsight why make a 1-200 achievement when only one class has a chance of getting there?
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