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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    You're right, RDM is a super hard job to play with bad utility and sub-par DPS.

    Completely correct.
    Damage isn't subpar, it's right where it should be. It's utility is largely forgettable once people git gud at which point make your RDM go BLM. It's complexity isn't in the job but in its execution really, finding where you can slide every last melee combo in, every cac/displace, and never dropping a gcd when possible.

    It's not a difficult job by any stretch, but people who know it's minor intricacies will always outdo "lulz look at me i can dualcast veraero so op kek"
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    Frost_Trunks's Avatar
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    Frost Trunks
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    They won't nerf verCure. It would make some of the solo job content REALLY hard not being able to cure yourself properly. If they nerf it, they will have to adjust the content. Why the hell do you care anyway? It's not like RDMs are trying to queue up as a healer for content. If you have an issue with healing yourself as another job, level your chocobo and put in healer stance. I can tank for days with my choco in healer stance. And again... STOP calling to NERF jobs. BUFF OTHER JOBS. This way we ALL win.
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    Zarabeth's Avatar
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    Kaylee Frye
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    Leviathan
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    I'm not sure what the plan is for RDM in FFXIV, overall. In FFXI rdms were op. We could solo things that normally took 6-18 people to kill. So far, the FFXIV RDM seems equally powerful, though it takes far less skill to play it here. As usual Squeenix went too fa,r and now BLM and SMN both are getting pushed aside for RDM, which leads to these "please nerf RDM" threads that pop up every other day. I say, bring blm and smn up instead of bringing RDM down. It's a fun job to play, let people enjoy it.
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    Nezerius's Avatar
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    Rintha Elenah
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zarabeth View Post
    I say, bring blm and smn up instead of bringing RDM down. It's a fun job to play, let people enjoy it.
    BLM has already been buffed, and currently deals more damage than RDM. SMN is getting buffed in the upcoming 4.06 patch (on tuesday).
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    Rinuko's Avatar
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    Lele Inoch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarabeth View Post
    I'm not sure what the plan is for RDM in FFXIV, overall. In FFXI rdms were op. We could solo things that normally took 6-18 people to kill.
    Yes but how long didnt it take to kite, gravity/dia/bio/whatever dot a boss down? 1 fuck up and you wasted your pop more or less.

    I don't support any suggestions to nerf RDM. It's perfectly fine as is and working as dev intended it. It's what its designed to be - jack of all trades, master of none
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    Yesunova Hotgo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinuko View Post
    Yes but how long didnt it take to kite, gravity/dia/bio/whatever dot a boss down? 1 fuck up and you wasted your pop more or less.

    I don't support any suggestions to nerf RDM. It's perfectly fine as is and working as dev intended it. It's what its designed to be - jack of all trades, master of none
    As somebody who still plays FFXI, RDM went through a period of being underpowered and SE wouldn't improve it. And even now it's underpowered until you have geared yourself out in multiple and specific gear sets, BLU on the other hand...is in a position to nuke like a BLM (and without the AoE penalty of additional enemies taking less damage), be pretty tanky and top off their own health - all in the same set up.

    But on the argument. I could solo A Ranks as a SCH at level 50 in XIV, it took forever, but I could still do it when a number of jobs wouldn't be able to and is considered group content. I say 50 as I've not tried since.
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    Rinuko's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saefinn View Post
    As somebody who still plays FFXI, RDM went through a period of being underpowered and SE wouldn't improve it. And even now it's underpowered until you have geared yourself out in multiple and specific gear sets, BLU on the other hand...is in a position to nuke like a BLM (and without the AoE penalty of additional enemies taking less damage), be pretty tanky and top off their own health - all in the same set up.

    But on the argument. I could solo A Ranks as a SCH at level 50 in XIV, it took forever, but I could still do it when a number of jobs wouldn't be able to and is considered group content. I say 50 as I've not tried since.
    Yeah my context was based on my experience from old times era, as in pre-abyssea which imo destroyed that game. I've tried it out since L99 cap was raised and I agree RDM isnt what it used to be. Sadface



    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    So instead of having one or two classes able to get an achievement...none should?
    Well you could always join up in a group like it was intended
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    Last edited by Rinuko; 08-14-2017 at 10:30 PM.

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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarabeth View Post
    I'm not sure what the plan is for RDM in FFXIV, overall. In FFXI rdms were op. We could solo things that normally took 6-18 people to kill. So far, the FFXIV RDM seems equally powerful, though it takes far less skill to play it here. As usual Squeenix went too fa,r and now BLM and SMN both are getting pushed aside for RDM, which leads to these "please nerf RDM" threads that pop up every other day. I say, bring blm and smn up instead of bringing RDM down. It's a fun job to play, let people enjoy it.
    hmm... after reading the first report of a RDM solo floor 200 achievement... you want all cls to become that powerful instead of tuning RDM a bit down?... : /
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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    That's the thing though Zarabeth. BLM is already far and away the better caster than RDM, sitting comfortably between second and third place in every savage fight. Once prog is over and dualcast raise useless, RDM is tossed out for BLM if they ever needed the RDM in the first place.

    SMN could still use some smoothing out as well though, but I agree with you on the end: RDM is in a good place.
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost_Trunks View Post
    They won't nerf verCure. It would make some of the solo job content REALLY hard not being able to cure yourself properly. If they nerf it, they will have to adjust the content.
    Gee, you don't say? Do you mean like how every single other DPS job has had to handle these solo situations for the past 4 years?
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