Tales from the Storm Discussion

[Alleo]

LineageRazor: Well there is a certain "lost" prince of Ala Mhigo. And I really hope that he will play a bigger role in the main story. (Was kinda surprised to not even see him there) I also cant see Lyse as a leader of a nation and if they dont want a king anymore, then I cant see them letting one people rule alone.

I am going to put my answer about Ishgard beyond a spoiler because its a bit off topic:

I recently took an alt through Heavensward and in the aftermath of the failed protest at the Ishgardian peace summit the quest text outright states that the protesters lay dead or dying. A handful survived, but it should have been a much bigger deal that others did not when it was regular Ishgardians trying to put their point of view on the table and fight for what they believed in.

Yet Aymeric gets to sit comfortably in a cushy position of supreme leadership and the youngest heir of House Fortemps - despite being trigger happy during the protest - also later gets a position of prominence, albeit in Camp Dragonhead. I want the fallout of Ala Mhigo's liberation to be messy and if there is any blood on the hands of the protagonists then I want there to be lasting consequences. I want them to lie awake at night, unable to sleep. Not giggling with joy and drinking wine whenever the Warrior of Light happens to come and visit them.

They did not just protest...the barmaid went to us, poisoned us and after that they went onwards to stop the peace meeting from happening by fighting armed against the soldiers. They were intending to kill the others and stop peace from happening. Saying that they just wanted to be heard is really downplaying what they wanted to try. Haurchefants younger brother overreacted at that situation and ordered an attack on the speaking barmaid which was shown to be frowned upon. Yet even after all she did, the barmaid was not imprisoned for the rest of her life for the stunt she tried to pull.

So it was not Aymerics fault that this happened and he even forgave those that survived, even though this could have been the end of all the peace talk and could have meant further ongoing war.

The youngest heir overreacted in that situation but learned from this and matured thus why he got the job.

Please stop painting all the others in a bad light in a situation that was truly not something harmless. These rebells wanted no peace, they did not want to live a life together with the dragons (which is kinda understandable after all they went through but does not change the results) and thus tried to go against it with weapons. If they had stood there with no weapons and only talked about this then yes them being killed would be too much. But they were ready to take other peoples lives (and might even have done so) thus they needed to be put down. The youngest Fortemp brother was overreacting but this was shown as a mistake in the game.

So you want good people that tried their best by freeing their home nation and also tried to solve stuff without blood to be haunted by a mistake for a long time? Wow thats harsh.

[Belhi]

LineageRazor: Well there is a certain "lost" prince of Ala Mhigo. And I really hope that he will play a bigger role in the main story. (Was kinda surprised to not even see him there) I also cant see Lyse as a leader of a nation and if they dont want a king anymore, then I cant see them letting one people rule alone.

I am going to put my answer about Ishgard beyond a spoiler because its a bit off topic:

They did not just protest...the barmaid went to us, poisoned us and after that they went onwards to stop the peace meeting from happening by fighting armed against the soldiers. They were intending to kill the others and stop peace from happening. Saying that they just wanted to be heard is really downplaying what they wanted to try. Haurchefants younger brother overreacted at that situation and ordered an attack on the speaking barmaid which was shown to be frowned upon. Yet even after all she did, the barmaid was not imprisoned for the rest of her life for the stunt she tried to pull.

So it was not Aymerics fault that this happened and he even forgave those that survived, even though this could have been the end of all the peace talk and could have meant further ongoing war.

The youngest heir overreacted in that situation but learned from this and matured thus why he got the job.

Please stop painting all the others in a bad light in a situation that was truly not something harmless. These rebells wanted no peace, they did not want to live a life together with the dragons (which is kinda understandable after all they went through but does not change the results) and thus tried to go against it with weapons. If they had stood there with no weapons and only talked about this then yes them being killed would be too much. But they were ready to take other peoples lives (and might even have done so) thus they needed to be put down. The youngest Fortemp brother was overreacting but this was shown as a mistake in the game.

So you want good people that tried their best by freeing their home nation and also tried to solve stuff without blood to be haunted by a mistake for a long time? Wow thats harsh.

I did mention earlier but this is addressed in the MNK quests and he has no interest in the throne. His goals are to revive the Fist of Rhalgr and help rebuild the spiritual institutions the Garleans destroyed as well as creating a Fist dedicated to providing hope and protection of the Ala Mhigans. I think its unlikely we will see him in the MSQ outside maybe a cameo.

Ala Mhigo is a very different situation to Ishgard. Ishgard, while it underwent rapid political change, had the structures in place to guide the transition. Fundimentally the governance has changed but its been adapted around the existing power structures, drawing power away from the church and giving the commoners a say. Ala Mhigo has no such unified structure to work with the Resistance is a myriad of independent groups and on top of them there are the various settlements and the independent factions like the Ananta and the Seeker tribes. That's a lot of pieces to try and build something unified out of.

I don't think Lyse is a great leader from a thinking but she is honest, open minded, passionate and inclusive. She has a vision of a united Ala Mhigo that all can belong to. In a situation where you have so many different groups that is something extremely important. You need someone who can provide a idea and a vision that all parties can get invested in. Yeah she needs advisors but at the end of the day Ala Mhigo needs a unifying symbol as much as they need a thinker, perhaps more so.