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    Cilia's Avatar
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    Trpimir Ratyasch
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    12 hour shifts suck. Let me just say that Ishgard is now a bicameral parliamentary republic, so anything it does as a nation nowadays can't be blamed on Aymeric's decisions alone.
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    "There is no hope in stubbornly clinging to the past. It is our duty to face the future and march onward, not retreat inward." -Sovetsky Soyuz, Azur Lane: Snowrealm Peregrination

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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Its worth mentioning, the protestors in Ishgard were not representative of the majority of the public which is why the resorted to sceptical to try and win public opinion. In general people seemed to be bone tired of war. Our goal was peace. For the people who would refuse to accept that and for who only war and vengeance could solve, we had to opposed because that exact frame of mind was why Ishgard had been trapped in 1000 years of war, death and suffering. That is why we fought Nidhogg.

    Ishgard is still a work in progress. The fundamental difference is that the commoners now have a voice in politics. This is still playing out. The MCH quests seem to be dealing with the Watch earning legitimacy in Ishgard. However the opportunity has galvanised the common class which as lead them to being far more proactive and feeling far more involved. This is also a factor with the Grand Melee. Aymeric intentionally had representatives of both the nobles and the commoners in what was a championing of Ishgard's military standing. For a society where martial prowess is revered, having commoners among those fighting would definitely have appealed to the common class and indicated inclusiveness.

    Again, this ties into what will happen in Ala Mhigo. We will probably have to smack down elements at some point who try and resort to violence and I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Garlemald tries to throw a fly in the ointment somewhere. However the key is to give everyone involved a common goal and idea and make everyone feel involved. Lyse has a better mindset for that than most.
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    I think we see plenty of examples from other sources that Ishgard is still working through its issues. It has come up in the Scholisticate, the MCH quest, the MSQ and general dialog. The main point with Ishgard is that all parties are interested in there being an Ishgard and are open to compromise. The commoners because they have been offered a potential non violent path to influence and change and the House of Nobles because of enough representatives open to adaptation and probably because they can tell the way the wind is blowing and realise change is going to happen and its better to have some say in that change than to try and forcefully stop it. As Aymeric said, without the war to give the classes a common enemy the lower classes aren't just going to put up with the same treatment for ever, particularly now the originals of the houses is common knowledge.

    Doma seems to probably be likely to face a smooth transition and I will be interested to see if the Enclave updates as patches progress. Would be a great place to have crafter and gatherer content. I do wonder however if we will see any reflection on the scars of the past in moving forward and the Doma Hein wants to build.
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    Kharagan Dotharl
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    Just want to say regarding our MNK friend that the reluctant ruler being the best ruler is a common trope. And that giving up a spiritual life for the needs of others is one as well. I don't think it will be him as leader, but it could be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grayve View Post
    Just want to say regarding our MNK friend that the reluctant ruler being the best ruler is a common trope. And that giving up a spiritual life for the needs of others is one as well. I don't think it will be him as leader, but it could be.
    As I said before, he has no interest in such a role. He has his plate a bit too full to be dragged into a leadership role and frankly I don't think a lot of Ala Mhigans would accept him in such a role.
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    The new story's up - "A Calm After the Storm"
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    Miyo Mohzolhi
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJerome View Post
    The new story's up - "A Calm After the Storm"
    Taking this as an invitation, Alisaie gave vent to her frustration. "Isn't that the truth! If he's not cheating death with his fellow adventurers, you can be sure he's off helping the beast tribes, or collecting tomestones, or regaling the children of Idyllshire with the tales of his exploits, or delivering something to someone. Honestly, I don't think he sleeps."
    I laughed.

    While I understand the limitations of the English language, it does feel slightly jarring to read of the WoL as being male, since I had subconsciously assumed that this outing at the patisserie was basically a Girls Only event or some such. EDIT: Never mind, I failed my spot check. We can switch genders for our WoL.

    Alphinaud is still pining over Estinien-senpai.

    Have we already met Lyse's new advisor? Or is he a brand new unseen character? I can't think of anyone in the Gyr Abania side of the expansion who is both around Lyse's age and knows a lot about Ala Mhigan politics and history. (Wiscar doesn't fit the latter, and he doesn't seem all that smitten by Lyse either.)

    I'm not sure if it's just Y'shtola, or if the Scions actually really don't know that much about each other, to the point where the first candidate for a significant other Lyse thought of for Y'shtola was Thancred, another Scion. Either way, it's a little sad.
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    Last edited by YianKutku; 08-11-2017 at 08:07 PM. Reason: 1k character limit

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    Mieck Corcoczeck
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    Quote Originally Posted by YianKutku View Post
    While I understand the limitations of the English language, it does feel slightly jarring to read of the WoL as being male, since I had subconsciously assumed that this outing at the patisserie was basically a Girls Only event or some such.
    There is a switch at the top of the story to set WoL gender
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    Quote Originally Posted by YianKutku View Post
    While I understand the limitations of the English language, it does feel slightly jarring to read of the WoL as being male, since I had subconsciously assumed that this outing at the patisserie was basically a Girls Only event or some such.
    There should be some tick-boxes at the start of the story, to the right of the title, that'll let you set the WoL to your preferred gender.
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    Thancred x Y'shtola... the ship that sank even before it sailed. And, no, she doesn't think of the WoL that way either.
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