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    YianKutku's Avatar
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    Miyo Mohzolhi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    If one is going to cast Sadu as a tsundere, I'd say she's going to go the classic tsundere route - starts out fiery and defiant, but eventually cools into her role as Magnai's love interest instead of flip-flopping between "fiery" and "lovestruck" like more contemporary tsunderes. That said they'll need to do it quick, since they "only" have 4.1 - 4.x (4.55) to do it.
    It's going to feel rushed if they did that, especially if there are other plot points to handle rather than spending all our time in the Azim Steppes stalking Magnai and Sadu. (Which, sadly, will probably not be as entertaining as the Ysayle And Estinien Show.)

    At the most, they'll grudgingly admit that the other is remotely possibly not the worst thing ever.
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    Well, I enjoyed the story. I'm just a little confused as to why Hien is in the header - and arguably equal in terms of plot importance as Lyse - but wasn't given a story to flesh him out further? Oh well. Hopefully he won't be neglected in the patches to come.
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    Kharagan Dotharl
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    I highly enjoyed the story. And didn't even notice the tense changing issue. But I suck at grammar. I do wonder how marriages among the tribes work. One of the Mol sidequests is about getting a bride some items to make a good impression on her new hubby from another clan, so I was assuming it's not frowned upon. And one hunter met his bride on the hunt, in that story, so they don't have to marry outside the clan.
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    On the one hand, I really liked the framing of a campfire tale. It's a basic and simplistic variety of it, but I assume there are issues with keeping to house style and length. The effort itself is commendable, and the execution passable. Good enough.

    On the other hand, I really don't like Magnai and Sadu, albeit in the proper "I don't like them" way instead of the deadlier "I don't like how they're written". Magnai is a jerk, and I don't like Ore-sama characters like Sadu. So this story didn't grab my attention as much as the one about the Scions' Day Out did.

    Magnai comes across in this story as one of those... I'm not sure what the proper term is. Obsessive? He hears about the story of Azim and Nhaama, and immediately assumes that real life must be as epic as the story, or it doesn't "count". So the stories his brothers have about meeting their own loved ones are too pale and thin for the saga unfolding in his head. He has a firm idea of what he wants his Nhaama to be, and how he's supposed to meet her. And he is not going to accept anything less.

    I suppose we as readers/players are supposed to be yelling in our heads at Magnai for how dense he's being.

    As for the Magnai/Sadu pairing, I don't actually think it will work out. It might, if both Magnai and Sadu put their egos aside and talk to each other like grown-ups, but if they did so, they wouldn't be Magnai and Sadu. So any attempt to pair the two together is doomed from the start.
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    Last edited by YianKutku; 08-26-2017 at 03:11 AM. Reason: 1k character limit

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    Quote Originally Posted by YianKutku View Post
    On the one hand, I really liked the framing of a campfire tale. It's a basic and simplistic variety of it, but I assume there are issues with keeping to house style and length. The effort itself is commendable, and the execution passable. Good enough.

    On the other hand, I really don't like Magnai and Sadu, albeit in the proper "I don't like them" way instead of the deadlier "I don't like how they're written". Magnai is a jerk, and I don't like Ore-sama characters like Sadu. So this story didn't grab my attention as much as the one about the Scions' Day Out did.
    Also, the Dotharl don't seem to be all that willing to marry out. They're a tribe that massacres others on a whim, supposedly. And the only way to be a Dotharl is to be born one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YianKutku View Post
    I suppose we as readers/players are supposed to be yelling in our heads at Magnai for how dense he's being.
    I'd think so, giving the audience in the story-framing is also rolling their eyes. I'm not super-enthusiastic about the "they hate each other so they'll obviously hook up" trope but I'll give it more of a pass if the Xaela also think this is incredibly stupid.

    Quote Originally Posted by TinyRedLeaf View Post
    That's also my hunch. But, without further proof, it's hard to say for sure.

    For me, the greatest insight from the entire Azim Steppes is the fundamental nature of myth. Humans have always been story-telling creatures; likewise the mortals of Eorzea/Hydaelyn
    While we're still (sorta) on this topic there's a couple of other interesting little parallels I may or may not be reading too much into.

    1) The repeated significance of "tears". The Xaela are meant to be the tears of Nhaama and meanwhile over in Eorzea Lake Silvertear is a critically important location to Hydaelyn.

    2) The way that this sun/moon split is echoed with the Miqo'te and their Keepers and Seekers, giving the impression that whatever is going on is a very ancient and primal story.
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    I really enjoyed the story and the way it was written between Sadu/Magnai. Personally I want to see him succeed in finding his lady, Magnai is far and above my favorite character that they added in the xpac and the Oronir tribe are badass. Seeing that story nearly made me want to swap to an Oronir Xaela character which (if you know how much I love Elezen and think they're the greatest race in the game, period) says a lot.

    Something about the Oronir's smug egotistical patronizing superiority complex really rubs me the right way for some reason and no I'm not kidding.
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    Anyone can told me more about Khaa/Khaat stuff
    I don't realize what it could be
    Maybe I missed the meaning of these word
    But if someone could help me I'd be thankful
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrispyCrab View Post
    Anyone can told me more about Khaa/Khaat stuff
    I don't realize what it could be
    Maybe I missed the meaning of these word
    But if someone could help me I'd be thankful
    If we go by the fishing log, it seems like Khaa is an oasis or small lake, Khaal is a river river and Khaat is a large lake.
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    Last edited by Mholito; 08-26-2017 at 07:36 AM. Reason: Too many oases

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrispyCrab View Post
    Anyone can told me more about Khaa/Khaat stuff
    I don't realize what it could be
    Maybe I missed the meaning of these word
    But if someone could help me I'd be thankful
    Looks like a typo and they meant "khaal" instead of "khaa", khaal being the word used for river on the Azim Steppe. Khaat probably means "lake", given Azim Khaat is one.
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