Who else is bored? Same Content and Formula...Was SB a waste of money?

[Warlyx]

Blizzard has created what I like to call of 'virtual' content.

Literally everything you do in legion has only a chance of giving you a reward

Just imagine if Susanoo had only a 5% chance to drop a weapon and had no token, people would be running parties for Susanoo for months

thats not true , SE will add more primals and u will try luck in the next primal for the same % for a way better weapon. plus catchup system exist in both games (or any modern mmorpg)

no1 is doing old content in Legion outside alts or ppl farming specific gear or glamour (appareance items for artifacts ), Weekly boss yeah but the items dropped LEVEL WITH YOUR CHAR (ilvl based ), at the begging u were getting 850 ilvl items now u can gain 900+ items , thats why ppl keep doing content the better your ilvl the better your chance of getting an upgrade.

if we want to compare wow legion to something is Diablo III , rng drops galore....but outside raids , and mythic+ dungeons , and some WQ the chance of obtaining updgrades is tiny.

[Nezia]

thats not true , SE will add more primals and u will try luck in the next primal for the same % for a way better weapon.

You always have at least 12,5% chance of dropping your weapon from the boss. If you are extremely unlucky the most times you can run that primal without getting your weapon is 10. In the example I made I was talking about 5% chance of dropping a weapon AT ALL, not 5% of dropping YOUR weapon.

no1 is doing old content in Legion outside alts or ppl farming specific gear or glamour (appareance items for artifacts ), Weekly boss yeah but the items dropped LEVEL WITH YOUR CHAR (ilvl based ), at the begging u were getting 850 ilvl items now u can gain 900+ items , thats why ppl keep doing content the better your ilvl the better your chance of getting an upgrade.

My friends have been proving their worth to Odyn for almost 1 year now. Only because blizzard has increased the ilvl from the loot does not make the content new, it only makes it relevant.

I got tired after I proved my worth to Odyn for 6 months and still did not get the legendary I wanted... Oh, which reminds me of the crapiest of all systems they added in legion: The Legendaries! Some legendaries have extremely powerfull effects, others are nothing but a ilvl boost, and the best part is: the more legendaries you get the less likely you are getting a new one! Got 2 terrible legendaries in a row? Welp, too bad for you, maybe in 2 or 3 months you will be getting a new one, just pray it is not one of the shitty ones or else you will be stuck for at least more 4 months with no new legendaries this time.

[Remedi]

I got tired after I proved my worth to Odyn for 6 months and still did not get the legendary I wanted... Oh, which reminds me of the crapiest of all systems they added in legion: The Legendaries! Some legendaries have extremely powerfull effects, others are nothing but a ilvl boost, and the best part is: the more legendaries you get the less likely you are getting a new one! Got 2 terrible legendaries in a row? Welp, too bad for you, maybe in 2 or 3 months you will be getting a new one, just pray it is not one of the shitty ones or else you will be stuck for at least more 4 months with no new legendaries this time.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but some trinkets in EM are on par or better than ToS when titangforged right?

[Nezia]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but some trinkets in EM are on par or better than ToS when titangforged right?

I quit the game before the ToS patch, so I don't know.

[Tsumdere]

I never feel like I never have anything to do.

More jobs to level, more things to craft and gather, more achivements and logs to fill (I like completing things like sightseeing logs), more gil to grind, more mounts and minions to collect... Not to mention I also RP on top of it all so I have a few alts I level at my leisure.

Completionists are never bored. :P

[Krotoan]

I got what I wanted when I payed for this expansion, more story, new jobs, new places .. etc etc. There is a story for EVERY SINGLE JOB that goes to 70. There are side quests with story and lore in them. There are easter eggs to ferret out, vistas to find and fates to do.
there is a LOT to do, I still have all my crafting to get past 60, I JUST finished 2/3 gathering classes to 70 and am now using those to build Gil and farm items for crafts (and I need dem 61 expedition pets!), I'm gathering glamour peices for my new jobs, learning new rotations for all the jobs and I haven't even gotten all the jobs I like to 70 yet.
I personally don't think twitch views is a good indication of how good a particular game is.. it's people WATCHING people play the game, which is a different market. I don't want to WATCH.. I want to DO! my friends want to DO stuff with me. Not watch me play games.

I don't believe for one second that NOBODY complained that there was nothing to do after WoW or any other games expansion. People will always complain once the one thing they consider "content" has been exhausted : I have max level/stat gear, I have nothing to do. I finished the story, there's nothing to do. I have all the spoons available in the entire game, I have nothing to do. The list goes on and on. People will ALWAYS complain.


I'm not gonna white knight and say this game is the best that's ever been or even the best currently available. I WILL say For me, and what I paid it's worth it and will continue to be worth it if they continue the flow of content that has kept me happy so far. When the next grind that gives me my purple weapon comes out I will dive right into that as well but it's not going to be some insane light grinding fest like I've heard some other people do. I will play my 4-7 hours a week that my job/life allows and when I get the shiny thing I will be happy and another will be available.
Sorry you feel this game didn't have enough stuff to keep you busy, but I don't think anyone promised anything they didn't deliver.

[eschaton]

Nope, loving it. Sorry!

(The forums are weird as usual right after an expansion though. )

[Fonkyama]

I'm also disappointed that they didn't add (yet?) a single new gameplay mechanic with their 2nd expansion.

I loved SB's MSQ. New areas are gorgeous. New jobs are fun to play. I like that they changed how crafter's quests work.

However they really need to add other kind of end game contents. They have gorgeous areas. Those shouldn't only be used for hunts (which are boring as ever) or gathering. Fates were a nice idea during Vanilla, it's time they have them evolve into something people actually care about. WoW went into the right direction with World Quests. I'm not saying they should do the exact same thing, but at least they found a way to have ALL areas being constantly used and meaningful.

In FF14, once you finish MSQ, you're basically afking in your favorite city waiting for your duty to proc.

Sure you can level alts (which you won't be able to gear as your main), you can craft, you can hunt achievements, etc. But there isn't much you can do with your main. Still the same old formula which they should've changed by now. 2nd expansion should mean new way to play too. Not the exact same kind of content as the 4 last years.

At least they were able to change pvp for the better. Now I'm waiting for them to add pve content that will mix things up for the end game.

[Krotoan]

I'm also disappointed that they didn't add (yet?) a single new gameplay mechanic ...

You see your "main" job as being stagnant with no ability to progress gear beyond the gated content yes?

I see my character has (for the time being) perfected one job out of 26 and has many other opportunities to adventure and explore.

You play your way, I'll play mine but I'm sad you don't see it the way I do. It's so much wider an experience than you're giving it credit for. You aren't your "main".

[Fonkyama]

You see your "main" job as being stagnant with no ability to progress gear beyond the gated content yes?

I see my character has (for the time being) perfected one job out of 26 and has many other opportunities to adventure and explore.

You play your way, I'll play mine but I'm sad you don't see it the way I do. It's so much wider an experience than you're giving it credit for. You aren't your "main".

Well I do level some alts, have my crafters/gatherers ready, however there isn't a single thing I did to level them that was new.

Going through PotD with my Samurai or running Copperbell mine pushing two buttons wasn't exactly a mindblowing experience.

I'm happy you enjoy going back to old content with other jobs and I wish I could be too, however I'm disappointed at the lack of new things to do once you're max level. It also doesn't help that with their recent gameplay changes, several classes are simply not fun to play before level 60s+.