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    Zephyra Aurora
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 70

    Black Mage Raise Ability

    I know Yoshida said he wouldn't give black mages a raise ability because it doesn't make sense lore wise, but I disagree. I think it would make perfect sense to have a raise ability centered in black magic. Lore wise perhaps it could have something to do with void magic or necromancy? I mean, if black mages created life via golems, why not be able to restore it to those who already had it? Besides, black mage is a job I truly love. But, it has literally no utility, which is a deal breaker in most statics. I mean, it has a tiny bit via role abilities, but rdm and smn can get those abilities too on top of having DPS buffs and a raise. Black mage will have a very hard time being a job people will want in statics as long as we have no utility. I would seriously ask the development team to reconsider adding a raise ability to help even it out with red mage and summoner.
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 100
    I wouldn't mind it. The casters are the least homogenised role anyway, each one is strongly set in a unique gimmick that makes them play nothing alike, so adding res to the only one that doesn't res wouldn't do anything to hurt the uniqueness of each job. For utility, rdm still has a cure and embolden buff to offset whatever personal dps loss it has compared to blm.
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    Arngrim Lightheart
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    Zalera
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Could Always raise them as a zombie. Sounds like black magic to me.
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    Kai Amaryllis
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    Famfrit
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    That would be too OP. Infinite MP = Infinite Rez. Would have to be on a long CD.
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by koroko220 View Post
    That would be too OP. Infinite MP = Infinite Rez. Would have to be on a long CD.
    Only usable in astral fire, costs a lot of MP. So then while you can't get past the infinite MP issue (and tbh you're never going to get past that on blm), it's a dps loss.
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    Mugetsu Okami
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    No, just no. RDM and SMN already get enough crap from lazy healers, we don't need BLM carrying them too.
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    Ferrinus Prime
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    Excalibur
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    If I absolutely had to give BLMs some means of raising people, I would let them toss swiftcast "charges" of some kind to allied casters, allowing, THEM to cast spells instantly and maybe even for free.

    However, if I were to give BLMs more raid utility it would probably take the form of dmg down/vuln up debuffs they place on their targets, and I don't think they really need more raid utility to start with. I just want to see umbral hearts become more important.
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    Drae Wellenbrecher
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    Ragnarok
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    BLM never had raise in any FF so, no. Raise just isn't black magic. If you use black magic to attempt a raise it justs do some random bullshits. Black magic is the magic of destruction.
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    Xyno Edajos
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    Please stop trying to get BLM a raise. The job is literally fine the way it is.
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    Ciel Wintermere
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Agree, in all FF games u never get raise from black magic. You are saying it is a deal breaker to not having utility? Square Enix designed black mage to not have utility and bring only damage, that is the flair of the class at least thats the reason square enix want people to pick black mage over other classes.
    Current reason why BLM is not favoured because there can be only 1 pure dps spot, either samurai or BLM. The obvious pick is samurai since physical classes buff are better synergized comparing to caster buffs available. If anything i'd suggest SMN devotion as party wide magic buff and RDM embolden be buff to include magic damage and we perhaps can start to see reason to have caster heavy composition rather than physical composition, that is the current meta. It might be interesting to have double caster meta again

    You entirely missed the point why top group savage racing dont bring BLM.
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    Last edited by MelvinK; 08-03-2017 at 04:02 PM.

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