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Thread: RDM BiS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lygas View Post
    Yeah, but wouldn't the 10% increased base damage still have a chance to dHit / crit / dCrit? I think it's less about stacking a stat at the expense of others and more about keeping stats relatively close together with a preferred stat that's above the rest.
    It would crit, but less, so that may be equivalent. Doing more damage but less crit, or doing less damages but more crit. At the end if you sum both option i think it's kinda equal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrismaticDaybreak View Post
    Nobody is arguing for spell speed, i don't know why you posted this.
    Velhart posted spell speed as one of the stats and i have seen other posts about some seeming to think SS is of value, when the value isn't really
    I did not say anyone was arguing now did i? SS Just does not really belong on RM this point in time, other stats even determination is of better value
    People need to be informed, i mean players can do what they want mind you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    Velhart posted spell speed as one of the stats and i have seen other posts about some seeming to think SS is of value, when the value isn't really
    I did not say anyone was arguing now did i? SS Just does not really belong on RM this point in time, other stats even determination is of better value
    People need to be informed, i mean players can do what they want mind you
    I figured people would already have read the earlier post you said about it, although it literally just dawned on me that some people might skip to the end to ask their own question rather than scanning pages for the answer already previously posted. And in any case, my point about spell speed is that it's not entirely useless as some believe, although you'd have to give up a huge amount of the other stats (which would be worse than any benefit it could give) in order for it to gain a somewhat impactful benefit.

    Also @ClairePendragon I'm more talking about nearly Arrow levels of spell speed, i'm only at like 1100 SpS and i'm still getting to the 60/60, 70/70 manafication problem.
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    I went with DH>CRIT>DET until we know more what stat weights be like
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    Stat weights are already known and they are dynamic.
    As rule of thumb:
    If DH + Crit < 3500 : go for DH
    If DH + Crit > 3500 : go for Crit
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrismaticDaybreak View Post
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    Thank you for understanding, lol
    Part of the issue is also that the gear is shared among casters. Some of it is more geared towards blm and some Red Mage. I play both blm and Red and it is a struggle, almost need 2 seperate gear sets. And some of the weapons are also of issue, high SS on a Red Mage weapon and yet none on blm. I seriously question their decisions
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    Quote Originally Posted by TelosNox View Post
    Stat weights are already known and they are dynamic.
    As rule of thumb:
    If DH + Crit < 3500 : go for DH
    If DH + Crit > 3500 : go for Crit
    Source? I havn't seen any public numbers other than peoples theorys or guesses
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    Would like the source too
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    While SpS isnt the best option fo RDM, Ive been debating on a "new way to look at SpS".
    Its still the worst, but a way to make it not feel like ist a waste, is to actually use manification when its up, even if you're 50/50 or 60/60.
    The reasoning behind this is that you were going to use manification roughly the same time every fight, with, or w/o SpS.
    So instead of looking at it as wasted mana, Ill look at it as having landed 1+ GCD attacks before I use manification.
    This is probably the only way I can justify it in my head, until I get more options in gear lol.
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    CLAIRE PENDRAGON

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arutan View Post
    I've been searching for which stat is the most important but internet is splitted between DH and CH, what's everyone opinion about it?
    Direct > Crit > Spell speed

    It seems that beyond 1.7k for both DH & Crit proc more often, but the gear sets................got to pick one and I mostly choose direct hit. Spell speed? Their cast time on most spells are already short and they don't have DoT spells so I don't get the reason for high spell speed to tell you the truth.
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