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Thread: RDM BiS?

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    RDM BiS?

    I've been searching for which stat is the most important but internet is splitted between DH and CH, what's everyone opinion about it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arutan View Post
    I've been searching for which stat is the most important but internet is splitted between DH and CH, what's everyone opinion about it?
    DH > Critical > Spell Speed

    It is good to at least get 1300 spell speed though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    It is good to at least get 1300 spell speed though.
    Like you have a choice in not having insane amounts of SpS from ur gear options.
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    What's the mindset behind wanting 1300 spell speed when the stat has zero benefit for our biggest amount of burst damage? The stat is completely wasted on our Melee combo. Stat priority should be DH -> Det -> Crit -> SpS. This will shift as higher tiers of gear become available and will likely end up with Crit -> Det -> DH -> SpS. Not likely viable until 2700+ crit is obtained though.
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    DH + Crit < 3500 = Prioritize DH.
    DH + Crit > 3500 = Prioritize Crit.


    This Bis set was made by the eggheads over at reddit: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/11LEB
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliniell View Post
    What's the mindset behind wanting 1300 spell speed when the stat has zero benefit for our biggest amount of burst damage? The stat is completely wasted on our Melee combo. Stat priority should be DH -> Det -> Crit -> SpS. This will shift as higher tiers of gear become available and will likely end up with Crit -> Det -> DH -> SpS. Not likely viable until 2700+ crit is obtained though.
    That's only half true, it doesn't affect the melee combo itself, but with more and more spell speed you'd get to your melee combo faster, although I don't see it having a big enough impact until we can garner enough spell speed to reduce our short cast spells to around 1.7 seconds or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf_Gang View Post
    DH + Crit < 3500 = Prioritize DH.
    DH + Crit > 3500 = Prioritize Crit.


    This Bis set was made by the eggheads over at reddit: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/11LEB
    Seems broken
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    Spell Speed is not the main stats, we are not blm were that is the number one, not sure why you guys seem to want to prioritize that, lol
    DH>Crit>Det is of much better value
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrismaticDaybreak View Post
    That's only half true, it doesn't affect the melee combo itself, but with more and more spell speed you'd get to your melee combo faster, although I don't see it having a big enough impact until we can garner enough spell speed to reduce our short cast spells to around 1.7 seconds or so.
    Except it makes you either waste manification or makes you wait to use it.
    Currently, Im using what ever gear I can get, until I have the ability to pick and choose which gear pieces I can get.
    Which has pretty much left me with pure spell speed.
    Im almost always somewhere around 60/60 or 70/70 when manification is ready.
    which now means i need to waste multiple GCDs in either direction.
    Those GCDs would have not been wasted if I was between 40-50 like I used to be, when I didnt have so much spell speed.
    And if I had crit/DH/DET instead, I would be doing more dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrismaticDaybreak View Post
    That's only half true, it doesn't affect the melee combo itself, but with more and more spell speed you'd get to your melee combo faster, although I don't see it having a big enough impact until we can garner enough spell speed to reduce our short cast spells to around 1.7 seconds or so.
    It's not just the melee combo SS isn't benefiting us on. It also doesn't affect any of our 4 OGCD abilities that do damage (with Fleche and Contre Sixte being the key ones here, of course).
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