Thank You For the Feast Ticket System

[LalaRu]

Like I said earlier it's easier to find ways to break or circumvent a system than fix it.

Yep, as the guy that after a match gone wrong gone to the extent to search members on server and when found me on same server, started to insult me by tells before being blacklisted. You need say thank you to people like that, that chat got removed.

One.
Million.
Thanks.

[Cynric]

Yep, as the guy that after a match gone wrong gone to the extent to search members on server and when found me on same server, started to insult me by tells before being blacklisted. You need say thank you to people like that, that chat got removed.

One.
Million.
Thanks.

I mean not only does that show removing chat didn't do anything, but also you know they wouldn't of had to search right? It shows your server in the results screen

[Arisato]

It's frustrating to want to read the feedback when it's littered with passive aggressive insults or just plain outright insults. I get a customer is angry but sometimes people need to take a step back before throwing out "doesn't care".

Like I said earlier it's easier to find ways to break or circumvent a system than fix it. Some of this is likely cultural - as some players will find ways simply due to their upbringing and mentality from where they live and how the development team can figure out how to fix the system without punishing other people (not to mention limits of their own resources).

The "doesn't care" statements mainly focuses on reports of win traders, hackers, botters. Since season 1, we've always had issues with win traders. We're in season 5, and we still have issues with the same win traders. I understand the limits of their own resources, but how are you going to run 5 actual ranked seasons with exclusive rewards, and not have decent moderation. I mean this also apparently applies in Triple Triad and Lord of Verminion tourneys where they have exclusive rewards along with win traders and bots as well. If they want to do exclusive rewards for anything, you expect a capable moderation team to go along with it.

[QT_Melon]

I don understand what your trying to say. Are You complaining about the complainers? If we complain we have to make sure we don't hurt the Dev's feelings? If we don't complain then how do the devs know what to fix? And yes, I think if it takes you 4+ years to fix a problem like win trading, it leaves the impression that you don't care.

Actually yeah, you can actually have a critique without being passive aggressive and rude. It's not a mutually exclusive issue. I also don't understand what you're trying to say, I agree with the complaints but don't like how some people are presenting them? Besides hiring more people to investigate win trading, between players what can be done to prevent it - out of curiosity what were prior suggestions?

[Zandeth]

Actually yeah, you can actually have a critique without being passive aggressive and rude. It's not a mutually exclusive issue. I also don't understand what you're trying to say, I agree with the complaints but don't like how some people are presenting them? Besides hiring more people to investigate win trading, between players what can be done to prevent it - out of curiosity what were prior suggestions?

There's nothing us players can do to stop hackers and wintraders. It also really doesn't help that we can't submit actual valid evidence on these offenses simply because "they can be edited". We have to rely solely on telling support about the person and praying that the GMs catch them in the act. If they don't, we as the reporter run the risk of getting in trouble ourselves for "falsely accusing". I can agree that some of us, myself included can get heated over this, but, for myself at least, it's because we're not being taken seriously.

[Krolja]

I can agree that some of us, myself included can get heated over this, but, for myself at least, it's because we're not being taken seriously.

I get heated and upset because we aren't being taken seriously at all. Period. We offer suggestions, they don't listen. We give them proof of cheating, they say "people aren't cheating." We beg and plead for some updates on what we can expect for the future in PvP, and we get silence. 4.06a did nothing but show us how truly blind the PvP devs are to the imbalance of the Feast. The phrase "based on player feedback" holds as little weight to me anymore as "competitive E-sport" regarding the Feast. They are both jokes, and SE killed them.

[SuperZay]

No, SE actually killed PvP by keeping Shatter, the most boring and PvE-oriented map as default PvP experience for 3 major patches (3.4, 3.5 and 4.0). That's what, around 14 months of hitting ice? Wow, exciting. And they probably think it's a great map because it's much more popular than Seal Rock. Yes, people started to PvP more for Garo event and PvE XP, but who actually does Frontlines for fun anymore?

[LalaRu]

Look at this page (I am at 73) to see how Frontlines are screwed by bots and alts. Mael players running alt bots on flames and adders, and a bunch of players trying to make things up. Look at victory percentages, sorry but I don't buy the "mael is gud" reason.

[SuperZay]

Look at victory percentages, sorry but I don't buy the "mael is gud" reason.

This was in old Seal Rock days. Over 90% weekly win rate. The secret is simple - a competent premade team.



Solo with randoms I get 30-35% like everyone else.

[Vejjiegirl]

Yep, as the guy that after a match gone wrong gone to the extent to search members on server and when found me on same server, started to insult me by tells before being blacklisted. You need say thank you to people like that, that chat got removed.

One.
Million.
Thanks.

Yup, And they are also adding cross word tells, people that would have been toxic in games will just send you a tell cross world and be toxic then.
All that the chat ban is doing is just preventing the inevitable and making it so people that are serious about pvp unable to communicate, and people that want to learn unable to learn.

A chat ban is not the answer but proper policing. Chat ban should be punishment for toxic players, not for everyone.