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    Areic's Avatar
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    Areic Davrun
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    Marauder Lv 90

    Bard stat priority

    So I've been digging around and can't seem to find anything, is the stat priority for bard the same as other dps with DH on top? Or do they get more value from crit?

    Thank you in advance
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    Kwoon E'xil
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    I haven't seen anything as far as mathcrafting goes but I don't see DH hit passing Crit on a Bard simple due to how our class works. I'm sure there's probably a sweet spot where it starts to lose its returns per point, but more crit means more procs means more dps so me personally Im going crit>DH>Det/SS.
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    Inspired God
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    Bard Lv 70
    Crit is the important stat and nothing else is close. crit>dh>det>sks

    Skillspeed and det might be close but honestly with how many oGCD casts we do I'd rather just have lower skillspeed so that I clip less.
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    Burn Cykle
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    Crit is king for Bard's, the only time DH should have greater priority than Crit is when you need to get to the accuracy cap for an end-game boss.
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    So crit over all and DH following further behind, got it. Thank you all
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    Rakuyo Mitani
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remyogic View Post
    Crit is king for Bard's, the only time DH should have greater priority than Crit is when you need to get to the accuracy cap for an end-game boss.
    Direct Hit has nothing to do with accuracy. DH replaced Accuracy in Stormblood.

    In-game description of Direct Hit. Pardon the low stats >_> Haven't melded mch yet since it's not my main anymore.

    Anyway, accuracy is a hidden stat now that is basically determined by your level compared to the target's level, so your accuracy will be 100% vs. a target that is the same or lower level than you. Exceptions to this are receiving negative status effects like blind/accuracy down, or if the target has abilities that buff evasion.
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    Lavena Knight
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    Shiva
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    Bard Lv 90
    WD: 17.416
    Dex: 1.000
    Crit: 0.412
    Direct Hit: 0.274
    Det: 0.227
    SS: 0.152

    Its not official, but these stats seems right for me.
    Max crit, then dh. Try to not take ss, then u should be fine
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    Alle Guides im Überblick: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/360181-Alle-Guides-im-%C3%9Cberblick-3.0
    Shadowbringers Barden-Guide: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/399205-How-to-be-Bard-tastic-(Shadowbringers-Edition)-Bardenguide-5.0

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    I really wish I was better at doing the math myself, it really seems to me that SS would be a bit better than most findings show considering they also affect your DoTs which with Crit as a main focus should theoretically boost how many procs you get and thus your overall damage. Looking like it doesnt matter so much right now though since DH is such an easy choice and a lot of the crit focused gear right now typically carries enough SS to break you into a decent enough range without prioritizing it.
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    Ciel Wintermere
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Also stat weight are pretty misleading, it is not a be all and end all number. It is only true under the assumptions laid out when the stat weight numbers are being calculated. The fact is, real world gearing choice is so aplenty and we find more often than not, there tend to be a lot of circumstances that deviate from the original assumptions therefore applying stat weight blindly to deteremine gear choice is often misleading. One thing to note is, substat value is often dynamic where it change in DPS gain depending on how much of the stats u already have. The more you have, the less value it is until a point where a least favorable substat able to overtake it. Although we dont have a model developed for BRD DPS simulation yet, one can guess crit value should be good in general based on on understanding how critical hit of caustic and storm bite increase the usage of higher potency abilities for BRD and the breakpoint where the 2nd substat overtake it could be very high (high in such a way current tier of ilevel does not allow stacking of the substat to such level) but we never know where the breakpoint is.. unless someone develop the simulation for BRD.
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    Last edited by MelvinK; 08-02-2017 at 03:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aethaeryn View Post
    Direct Hit has nothing to do with accuracy. DH replaced Accuracy in Stormblood.

    In-game description of Direct Hit. Pardon the low stats >_> Haven't melded mch yet since it's not my main anymore.

    Anyway, accuracy is a hidden stat now that is basically determined by your level compared to the target's level, so your accuracy will be 100% vs. a target that is the same or lower level than you. Exceptions to this are receiving negative status effects like blind/accuracy down, or if the target has abilities that buff evasion.
    My bad on the mis-information. I just came back from a long hiatus and wasn't aware of the change. So we no longer have to worry about raid bosses? I'm guessing they are all Level 70 mobs?
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