Blood Price feels underwhemling

[Tint]

they have changed blood price so that you get blood when you use it. since that didn't worked out that good they then changed quietus to recover mana. so instead of blood price > mana > abyssal drain it now is:

blood price > blood
blood > delirium (for longer blood price uptime)
blood > quietus
quietus > mana
mana > abyssal drain

and the idea of "making the jobs easier with 4.0" and removing button bloat was a succes! all hail to the blood gauge! \^^/

[Ostwar]

they have changed blood price so that you get blood when you use it. since that didn't worked out that good they then changed quietus to recover mana. so instead of blood price > mana > abyssal drain it now is:

blood price > blood
blood > delirium (for longer blood price uptime)
blood > quietus
quietus > mana
mana > abyssal drain

and the idea of "making the jobs easier with 4.0" and removing button bloat was a succes! all hail to the blood gauge! \^^/

^^This, just be careful on using Dark Arts with Quietus as the MP regen is fixed so for 50 extra potency you gain might backfire unless there are enough mobs to soak up the DA MP cost. Just checked DA is 2400 MP, I noticed Quietus (for me) regens 480 MP per target meaning you need a min of 5 mobs to break even on this. Better off not DA'ing Quietus and in turn using that regained MP for DA-Abyssal Drain instead .

[cetrei]

I'm guessing they'll add a passive mp regen along with the blood regen. Honestly I'm not sure why they nerfed it so badly but then went back and buffed Quietus into being the old Blood Price; DRK's conflict with Holy and Celestial Opposition is now even worse since TBN has a shorter window than Blood Price.

[MagiusNecros]

They decided to make BP and BW Blood generators as their main function now. I think it's kinda crap in comparison to what DRK's had in 3.0.

With the changes to Quietus I still feel to be as viable as 3.0 BP was it needs to be a Blood Cost of 20.

[Shinkyo]

Blood Price is pretty much a dungeon only skill.
On single target, I don't even feel the benefit of it... for 15 sec duration, you need to get hit 28 times to get just a DA/TBN. That's just not going to happen.
even as a gauge builder, it's barely noticeable...

[Sarcatica]

If any, Blood Price encourages DRK to pull more. Quietus mana gain is really good too. Literally infinite mana to spam aoes.

[InfiniDragon]

In my opinion, what Blood Price should be instead of MP per hit, is a Lucid Dreaming-style fixed MP refresh with the Blood Gauge part of it working the same.

That way it would be useful for single target, mobs, and still give the infinite MP in large pulls for self-healing via Abyssal Drains.

[Lyth]

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DRK is in a good spot for big single target-magic hits, which happened to be the design for this tier (although it remains the costliest tank to mitigate on). It's not so great for sustained damage, physical damage, or multi-target busters. If you had a fight like A7S now, you just wouldn't run DRK, period, because you only have two mitigation cooldowns to work with outside of Living Dead (one of which is on a three minute cooldown).

I think what people are looking for is some sort of a substitute to Dark Dance to create even a semblance of addressing this gap. I know that you can cross-class Anticipation, but tank role action slots are at a premium, and neither of the other tanks have such an obvious weakness in their defensive capabilities.

Either way, there's no mistaking the fact that Blood Price is undertuned. It's nice to say that the solution is to "pull more", but how does that work outside of casual content? Most raid content damage tends to be single target. Even if you want to use it for the blood gain during downtime, the 20 blood that it restores doesn't even reimburse half of the cost of swapping into Grit.

[RLofOBFL]

Because the quitus mp change i have fun with DRK despite Blood Price's lowered mp. But a major issue I do have is that it is basically 100% useless on bosses now, you'd be lucky if you got even 1500 mp back.

[Galgarion]

The current state of blood price is terrible! Remember the glorious days of unlimited mana and infinite abysal drain spam? Mindless as hell, but so much fun!