Revamp Summoner idea

[Shurrikhan]

Just throwing my 2 cents in, I honestly just wish Summoner felt more along the lines of Yuna in Dissidia. She did not "summon" them in a traditional sense but they appear only a brief moment to unleash certain attacks. Much like in games past minus the lengthy cut scene each time. I'd say let SCH have the Bio/Miasma and let us go into a more primal type. Like allow us to open a portal in which Ifrits head pops out and breathes fire in a cone, Ramuh brings down a strong bolt of lightning on a target and so forth eventually working our way up to Bahamut in 60+

But how would this differ from a BLM, then, except that at best the pet provides a massive HP shield against enemies yet void of party enmity (or dies easily, wasting their abilities), and further obscures one's view of the battlefield?

A temporary pet adds another potential entry to each affectable mob's threat table and some amount of HP for them to waste their attacks against. Short of that, it's just a conical Flare, a TC-Thunder IV, etc. How do you want the gameplay to be actually differentiated, if at all? Or would you rather just have what's currently called SMN be more like what's currently called BLM, etc.?

[AlphaFox]

But how would this differ from a BLM, then, except that at best the pet provides a massive HP shield against enemies yet void of party enmity (or dies easily, wasting their abilities), and further obscures one's view of the battlefield?

Different from blackmage, I honestly wouldn't know how. It would have to be a full on revamp as some skills perhaps require no cast while others do. As to avoid obscuring, I would figure a new animation for the book itself, or much like in the video it could just be used as a portal or summoning gate that allows the summon to do its thing and retreat back. For the most part not being much bigger than the caster itself but I am only throwing the idea, not saying its perfect.

Yuna in Dissidia 012.

[IveraIvalice]

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When I was thinking how I wanted smn to be in this game i thought of yuna from dissidia as a possible way it could be. That is another cool way it could be done. I unltimately decided it would be better to feel like your controlling a pet, but either way is a similar feel to a classic summoner. The dissidia summon a bit less so but still summoning big things to do a quick big hit, so still cool

Edit: that was quoted wrong