What do the devs want from SMN?

[loreleidiangelo]

not defending the Devs at all. Just saying that they addressed some of the points of the community and yet it's not really working out.

at this point they could take away DoTs altogether (or just keep tridisaster) and make the rotation more engaging. it's ridiculous that smn is still casting Ruin I so often even at lv70. Not even going to talk about the RNG aspect of Ruin IV.

Fair enough; I admit my accusation was unjustified. Sorry.

That said, while I've never liked the whole "DoTs and Aetherflow" concept for Summoner, I actually admit that in 2.x I never had many grievances with the job's performance or playstyle until Heavensward. I didn't like "Summoner" being a DoT mage, but it was consistent and was more creative than the rotation-based DPS we mostly had in ARR (it just felt more like a Necromancer than a Summoner IMO). I feel like the devs have since TRIED to make it more "like a Summoner", but they've done so without removing the Affliction Warlock copy concepts that frustrated people during 2.0 (ACN remnants like DoTs and Ruin spam), and the resulting hybrid has just made no one happy.

[Valinis]

There's been a million of these threads, use the search function and stop making more.

[Sylvina]

Bahamut is the one redeeming quality of SMN. Never make it smaller. Just add an option for other people to make it not show for them.

[Celef]

What do the devs want from SMN?

That they quit
On a more serious note, doesn't he bring a debuff that lower magic resistant of 10% with Garuda ? No bad when you have casters in your group

[Imakun]

Summoner? I thought it was Bahamut Mage.

[Nezia]

That's what happens when you try to add dots, pets, direct damage and heavy burst into a single class.

[Zigabar]

They want SMNs to equip those RDM soul crystals.

Here's some delicious verkoolaid.

[Kazrah]

Here's some delicious verkoolaid.

That joke is getting ver-y overused.

[Caduagm]

I just want my 3.0 smn back.
It was fluid, it was nice and it was amazing. Ty, yw.

[Dyvid]

It's a pet job and SE has put a lot more "weight" on pets now than previous versions. They are required to buff, debuff, and proc ruin now. They also account for 1/3 of the SMN's dps.