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  1. #31
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    I absolutely agree with removing the leve cap entirely, it's something that should have been ages ago. But as I type his and thought about another thought came to mind, namely that the leve system itself is pretty outdated.

    They ditched combat leves entirely for stormblood and in HW they were only worth doing for vilekin and nothing else. The exp rewards weren't worth the time expended to do them. So while I doubt they will raise the cap, I think it's about time they do something to revamp the leve system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kahnom View Post
    Leves are useful for early level doh/dol.
    But once you can get to turn in collectable.Leves have become useless.
    At least for me.
    Can't edit on mobile. Depends on the amount of time you want to spend leveling. There are a few crafter leves that allow you to get a significant amount of exp.

    For example, there is 64 (I think) weaver leave worth 750k if you turn in 3 kudzu thread. If you HQ all of them? It's over 1.5mil. It takes significantly less time to make three threads than the average SB collectible for wvr.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    So you are doing something slower to gain sands because you need red scripts for other things? makes no sense.

    She never heard of someone being so unlucky you only get 6 ambers out of 100 leves, it sounds like you where not checking all the spots.
    For the first part, I fail to see how it "makes no sense". The fact is I still need to do a lot in this game and playing catch-up is taking a substantial amount of time as is. I need gatherer scrips for Folklore books and crafter scrips for Master tomes.
    And considering the cost of crafting for the latter and the speed of acquisition for the former, they aren't exactly a significantly faster endeavour (if at all) for me.


    As for the second comment, it's largely due to my ineptitude. That said, I didn't miss the chests, they just weren't there. The big issue is I followed some poor advice from an old discussion that suggested doing the large-scale leves. I didn't expect the spawn rate was as low as it is, and due to the smaller pool of runs large-scale leves allow, RNG just didn't work out in my favor. :-(
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark-Saviour View Post
    For the first part, I fail to see how it "makes no sense". The fact is I still need to do a lot in this game and playing catch-up is taking a substantial amount of time as is. I need gatherer scrips for Folklore books and crafter scrips forMaster tomes.
    And considering the cost of crafting for the latter and the speed of acquisition for the former, they aren't exactly a significantly faster endeavour (if at all) for me.


    As for the second comment, it's largely due to my ineptitude. That said, I didn't miss the chests, they just weren't there. The big issue is I followed some poor advice from an old discussion that suggested doing the large-scale leves. I didn't expect the spawn rate was as low as it is, and due to the smaller pool of runs large-scale leves allow, RNG just didn't work out in my favor. :-(
    I explained why, because it takes more time to do spam leves for amber, as you see how long it can take, compared to crafting, it is 125 scripts for 2 sands (25x 5) Marid Leather Grimoire gives 132, you only need make one of them for 2 sands, since the conversion changed in SB, and making that is cheaper then doing the 3 element materia, if time is important to you, you do it by crafting or element materia, that is why it makes no sense. They only take about 30 seconds to make.

    Also note if you are unable to get sands quickly, you might as well wait till you are in a position to do so (be it leveling more, or whatever is gating you from advancing.) HW content got outdated on the release of SB and it only takes 600 poetics for a i270 weapon. Since atma is only for glam, just do other things as you gain poetics as a side effect. The person I am posting for notes gaining a full 275 relic after SB, just from leveling jobs and gaining everything with the poetic rain as she leveled 5 jobs 60-70 and rdm and sam 50-60. The only reason she don't physically have it yet is simply from playing with a friend and does not know what to do about light farming. (basically no free time yet, but has all the currency for 275)

    Making a change to let everyone be all level 70 crafting and gathering in 24 hours because you do not know an effective way to get sands for a glam weapon is a bit extreme, don't you think?
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    Last edited by Snow_Princess; 07-31-2017 at 12:00 PM. Reason: Forgot the SB change in gaining blue tokens

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark-Saviour View Post
    Red Scrips are way too slow going for me and I need them for other things.
    Whatever you do with the red scrips you get has no effect on getting xp from them, so this part makes no sense at all. This topic is about levelling, so whatever you do with the points you get as an aftereffect from levelling is irrelevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    Can't edit on mobile. Depends on the amount of time you want to spend leveling. There are a few crafter leves that allow you to get a significant amount of exp.

    For example, there is 64 (I think) weaver leave worth 750k if you turn in 3 kudzu thread. If you HQ all of them? It's over 1.5mil. It takes significantly less time to make three threads than the average SB collectible for wvr.
    I'm not focus on Xp alone though.Red Scripts can turn into money or materias etc. etc.
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    Agreeing with op, leves are outdated. Please revamp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbeliel View Post
    Agreeing with op, leves are outdated. Please revamp.
    I wouldn't get rid of them. The grand leves were pretty decent for making money/getting mats. Hope they didn't ditch those thinking they weren't used...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    I wouldn't get rid of them. The grand leves were pretty decent for making money/getting mats. Hope they didn't ditch those thinking they weren't used...
    Yes, don't throw out. Just revamp. They're literally the only repeatable OW content that has any relevance to someone under level cap that isn't a FATE lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kahnom View Post
    I'm not focus on Xp alone though.Red Scripts can turn into money or materias etc. etc.
    A fair point.

    However, if you level fast, it gives you faster access to higher level gear and makes those recipes you could craft for money easier since you're above the recipe level. I'm going to argue it's better to focus on the leveling it's first.
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