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    stanrir's Avatar
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    I'septha Tayuun
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    get rid of leve Allowances

    My GF started leveling crafting and gathering starting from level 1 on most of these jobs, so going all the way to 50 at least to start doing collectables can take a lot of leves and once you run out you can't really level crafts and gathers until they recharge.

    this really makes starting crafting feel like some cheap facebook game where you have to wait until your energy to come back before you can do things again. and with a low recharge rate once you run out it takes forever for them to get high enough to start leveling properly again. Also the lack there of crafting quest or just alternate leveling routes pre-level 50 makes this part a complete mess

    So I think the best course of action is to do away with the allowances completely
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    You could always.. ya know... craft to level. Leves aren't the only way to gain exp. simply the most efficient and therefore the most used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edewen View Post
    You could always.. ya know... craft to level. Leves aren't the only way to gain exp. simply the most efficient and therefore the most used.
    yeah thats right i guess we should get gated on the amount of dungeons we can do on battle jobs and level them by just monster farming cause that is a really good way to level
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    Quote Originally Posted by stanrir View Post
    yeah thats right i guess we should get gated on the amount of dungeons we can do on battle jobs and level them by just monster farming cause that is a really good way to level
    Crafting xp from crafting things is increased based on the number of steps involved. This means with the right macro you can make even basic recipes give great xp return.

    Also once you hit level 50 just like with gatherers you can start working on Collectables, which are basically unlimited leve turn ins only limited by your ability to get the materials. Just like a gatherer is mostly limited in efficiency by time more so then anything else (though they always have always available nodes).
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    Ter'vin Valash
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    Quote Originally Posted by TankHunter678 View Post
    Crafting xp from crafting things is increased based on the number of steps involved. This means with the right macro you can make even basic recipes give great xp return.
    To clarify, the exp bonus is actually based on how much Quality you've built up using crafting skills on that item. Note that using HQ materials to have a higher starting Quality does not increase exp gain, only the Quality gained during the crafting process increases the exp.

    Quote Originally Posted by stanrir View Post
    yeah thats right i guess we should get gated on the amount of dungeons we can do on battle jobs and level them by just monster farming cause that is a really good way to level
    They do. It's called daily roulettes.

    Running dungeons for experience outside of roulettes is akin to crafting items to gain crafting experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stanrir View Post
    yeah thats right i guess we should get gated on the amount of dungeons we can do on battle jobs and level them by just monster farming cause that is a really good way to level
    I feel like a closer analog would be comparing leves to the daily roulette bonuses we can only use once a day, while crafting for the xp (don't forget those manuals for boosted xp while gathering and crafting!) is like grinding the highest level dungeon you have access to over and over again.

    Maybe what we need is a Craft/Gather Palace of the Dead
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edewen View Post
    You could always.. ya know... craft to level. Leves aren't the only way to gain exp. simply the most efficient and therefore the most used.
    Funny thing is, they're not even the most efficient anymore. XP from crafting was buffed hard up till 55. You can quick synth piles of stuff that's still useful, from cheap mats, and make money levelling faster instead of spending money levelling slower.
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    Sarena Veradayne
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    Level gathering jobs. Use those + creature farming to gather mats. Actually craft things and gain XP. Problem solved.
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    Blufnix Greedalox
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    Leves are fine lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stanrir View Post
    this really makes starting crafting feel like some cheap facebook game where you have to wait until your energy to come back
    That's how this entire game is run. It's how they keep us subbed.
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