Is MCH even support?

[BubblyBoar]

I thought the physical ranged DPS job were supposed to be the most support-y job role. But MCH confuses me. It has the same role as BRD, but less support and utility then a NIN, which is a melee DPS job. So, what exactly is MCH supposed to be?

For Comparison:

BRD: Crit buff from songs, DH buff from Battle Voice, buffs from Troubadour, buff from Nature's Minne, dmg up from Foes, and a cleanse - 6 things.

NIN, a melee DPS: dmg up from Trick Attack, enmity control from Shadewalker and Smokescreen, and Slashing debuff from Shadow Fang - 4 things.

Meanwhile, MCH: dmg up from Hypercharge, and dmg down from Dismantle - 2 things.

Just 2.....only 2...as a support. Even DRG and SMN offer more than that? So I'm confused, is BRD the only support class now?

[RLofOBFL]

Honestly outside of TP, MP(cross role tho) and hypercharge, it really doesn't feel supporty at all. I am surprised it's the weakest dps considering NIN exists and is far stronger with essentially the same ability.

[Enla]

Honestly outside of TP, MP(cross role tho) and hypercharge, it really doesn't feel supporty at all. I am surprised it's the weakest dps considering NIN exists and is far stronger with essentially the same ability.

I honestly don't think they know what to do with it. Even though it still retains nearly the best burst in the game, it's sustained DPS has worsened. I also feel that the latest 'fixes' to it's heat gauge have taken a lot of the fun out of the class for me, though I'm hardly high end enough to know whether or not to amounts to a proper DPS gain or not.

[DRHaymaker]

They dropped the (musket) ball on MCH. Their class "support skills" are really no different than any other DPS with a group CD. Even Dismantle is terrible as all three tanks can do the exact same thing on a shorter CD with Reprisal. Unless you really enjoy the play style, there's no reason in playing one.

[Clawbriar]

Do Square Enix even know what Machinist is meant to be?

[Mirch]

You has gun. You point gun. You kill pepo

[Medicine]

I wouldn't call em support and I sure as hell wouldn't call em fun either..

[Jybril]

We don't know what they hell they are.
Barely even a DPS lol.

[Zeonsilt]

Yes, that's why i'm "forced" to level BRD atm, since for O3S and O4S people never (95% of the time) have a slot opened for MCH. Most of the time it's "BRD-exclusive".
Thanks you, Square Enix. For your "amazing job at balancing classes" and "MCH improvements in 4.05".

p.s. The next class rebalance will happen in 4.1, according to Yoshida's words in last letter.

[DarkSlayerGrimm]

I was hoping they'd expand upon the turrets at least, BRD have their songs they improved and made the song system better and MCH have their turrets and they.....didnt do anything. BRDs use a Flute to activate their songs MCH use the same animation they use for everything else -_-