Is MCH even support?

[BubblyBoar]

I thought the physical ranged DPS job were supposed to be the most support-y job role. But MCH confuses me. It has the same role as BRD, but less support and utility then a NIN, which is a melee DPS job. So, what exactly is MCH supposed to be?

For Comparison:

BRD: Crit buff from songs, DH buff from Battle Voice, buffs from Troubadour, buff from Nature's Minne, dmg up from Foes, and a cleanse - 6 things.

NIN, a melee DPS: dmg up from Trick Attack, enmity control from Shadewalker and Smokescreen, and Slashing debuff from Shadow Fang - 4 things.

Meanwhile, MCH: dmg up from Hypercharge, and dmg down from Dismantle - 2 things.

Just 2.....only 2...as a support. Even DRG and SMN offer more than that? So I'm confused, is BRD the only support class now?

[RLofOBFL]

Honestly outside of TP, MP(cross role tho) and hypercharge, it really doesn't feel supporty at all. I am surprised it's the weakest dps considering NIN exists and is far stronger with essentially the same ability.

[Enla]

Honestly outside of TP, MP(cross role tho) and hypercharge, it really doesn't feel supporty at all. I am surprised it's the weakest dps considering NIN exists and is far stronger with essentially the same ability.

I honestly don't think they know what to do with it. Even though it still retains nearly the best burst in the game, it's sustained DPS has worsened. I also feel that the latest 'fixes' to it's heat gauge have taken a lot of the fun out of the class for me, though I'm hardly high end enough to know whether or not to amounts to a proper DPS gain or not.

[DRHaymaker]

They dropped the (musket) ball on MCH. Their class "support skills" are really no different than any other DPS with a group CD. Even Dismantle is terrible as all three tanks can do the exact same thing on a shorter CD with Reprisal. Unless you really enjoy the play style, there's no reason in playing one.

[Clawbriar]

Do Square Enix even know what Machinist is meant to be?

[Recaldy]

Do Square Enix even know what Machinist is meant to be?

Guns are a rarity in Japan so I'd assume no. :b

[Mirch]

You has gun. You point gun. You kill pepo

[RyuujinZERO]

You has gun. You point gun. You kill pepo

Except they do even that objectively worse than every other class dedicated to killing people... including bards

[Medicine]

I wouldn't call em support and I sure as hell wouldn't call em fun either..

[Jybril]

We don't know what they hell they are.
Barely even a DPS lol.