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    Im sure most, if not all, of us agree that getting more cross class skills makes everything easier. But single class CUL would probly be the best single class to go. As a single class youd be able to put your specialist on, so youd get byregots miracle(rather then blessing). You get versions of careful, manipulation, waste not(via prudent), and rapid. With all your tricks, 1 star should be doable.

    WAY late edit: Almost forgot, CUL is also in a great position because it has SH 2 be default, and Muscle Memory is a great level 54 skill. But yeah, having everything is nice too. Thats why i leveled em all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frizze View Post
    Im sure most, if not all, of us agree that getting more cross class skills makes everything easier. But single class CUL would probly be the best single class to go. As a single class youd be able to put your specialist on, so youd get byregots miracle(rather then blessing). You get versions of careful, manipulation, waste not(via prudent), and rapid. With all your tricks, 1 star should be doable.
    I would rather you show me a rotation where you can get a high HQ chance for lv 70 1 star recipe with 1320/1220/522 stat without cross class skill. It's kinda impossible to do it consistently without ingenuity I/II.

    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon
    There was a discussion in the 4.05 Crafting disappointment thread if 1-2 star can be done by a single class.
    In that thread, cross class skill at lv 15 is used.

    Edit: By High HQ chance I mean you can get it 90% of the time, including the chance from failing non 100% action.

    Edit2: It's possible to do it with at least 90% success rate if you have cross class skill at 15, but the simulation I tried required 1373 craftsmanship (achievable by pentamelding), which is expensive for a new crafter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirarara View Post
    I would rather you show me a rotation where you can get a high HQ chance for lv 70 1 star recipe with 1320/1220/522 stat without cross class skill. It's kinda impossible to do it consistently without ingenuity I/II.

    Edit2: It's possible to do it with at least 90% success rate if you have cross class skill at 15, but the simulation I tried required 1373 craftsmanship (achievable by pentamelding), which is expensive for a new crafter.
    Well there's a few things to keep in mind. In this case, the OP shouldn't be trying to do it from 100% NQ (it was just a challenge because people were saying crafting was too easy because they were omnicrafters/got everything leveled to 50-70)

    However, CP will be a factor regardless and you still need to overmeld the accessories to get a good amount of CP

    They can get the stats with (Something like this http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/12B46 - I changed it to include the Soul Stone for the Bonus). http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...lding-Set-List

    That's for 2 star at least, but the other factor would be the mats themselves.
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...e/73d6ee69d4d/
    Nothing in there is expensive and if the person is gathering a majority of the mats his/herself then they can get some HQ items from that list

    Protip (don't buy brass loach of the MB for more than 18 Gil, there's a fishmonger near the Aftcastle teleport in Limsa that sells the loach for Gelatin).

    I didn't put in Gelatin because it's level is really low to factor in contribution for HQ

    HQ Contribution
    1459 - 70 - Othard Plum
    1419 - 67 - Persimmon
    1403 - - Dusklight Aethersand
    1373 - 64 - Beet Sugar
    1308 - Loquat
    6962 Total.

    Since Dusklight Aethersand may be the kicker if the person doesn't do gathering reductions, 5559 may be the total, but doing some runs, it seems to be doable with at least 4k quality
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    Last edited by QT_Melon; 08-04-2017 at 11:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
    Well there's a few things to keep in mind. In this case, the OP shouldn't be trying to do it from 100% NQ
    Fair enough. I do crafting as a mean to earn gil therefore I overlooked that aspect.
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