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    Lyraele Inglorion
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    Yeah, CUL is the one I want at 70, because Jellied Compote is prohibitively expensive. I do get the feeling that leveling craftsmen up may actually not be economically a win over just buying food as I need it, but I'm going to ignore that feeling and see how it pans out. :P
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    Well, you need to have most crafter class at 37 to 50 before you start with levelling CUL to 70.
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    Listen Meow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirarara View Post
    Well, you need to have most crafter class at 37 to 50 before you start with levelling CUL to 70.
    This certainly isn't true. Culinarian is my only level 70 craft and I got there without using a single cross-job skill. Having botanist and taking the time to gather your own materials is, however, very useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deckout View Post
    This certainly isn't true. Culinarian is my only level 70 craft and I got there without using a single cross-job skill. Having botanist and taking the time to gather your own materials is, however, very useful.
    You can get to 70 without cross class skill, that's for sure. But it will be extremely difficult to 100% HQ 66+ stuff (which I supposed it's his intention) without cross class skill or heavily melded lv 70 eq.

    Edit: I supposed it's still doable but I don't think most people would want to solve a puzzle of 100% HQ for high level recipe without cross class skill such as byregot blessing, piece by piece, ingenuity and careful synthesis II. If they like this challenge they won't even ask how to in the first place.

    Edit2: As stated by OP, he wanted to craft Jellied Compote, a lv 70 1 star recipe. Cross class skill is almost certainly needed.

    Edit3: Also, I find levelling from 50 to 70 much less expensive if you have the required cross class skill, due to how you can craft your own leve item or collectible easily. While I have my own gathering at max level, I never gathered my own item to level CUL because it take much lesser time to just buy from marketboard, and sell the crafted item at around the same price. You just need to do some research on the MB.
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyraele View Post
    I do get the feeling that leveling craftsmen up may actually not be economically a win over just buying food as I need it, but I'm going to ignore that feeling and see how it pans out. :P
    Over the long run, being able to make your own stuff is always a benefit gil-wise(if we count time, that can be another issue). Afterall, once youre done leveling you can reap the rewards of being leveled up for as long as your level is relevant... so, this whole expansion cycle most likely. And while youre only looking at it from the perspective of the item you can make yourself to save gil, if you choose so later on you could also make other meals for profit. All up to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyraele View Post
    I do get the feeling that leveling craftsmen up may actually not be economically a win over just buying food as I need it
    Just using the Crafting Log to level (and doing each Leve exactly once, making up the difference with Collectible hand ins for the Master books as necessary) I'm making a decent amount of gil. Whether crafting is profitable (necessary for it to be "an economic win") is dependent upon actually having stuff to sell to recoup the costs. If all you do is Leve (and Quick Synth) your way up, you will be facing an economic loss and not start to recoup anything until you start factoring in savings by not buying the HQ foods you are after. Making stuff and putting it on the board, ideally stuff that moves, is the key to recouping the cost of leveling. Do that, and you may find that your crafting can not only pay for itself to be leveled, but also for the stuff you wanted out of it in the first place.

    Bear in mind though, I'm leveling all 8 crafting classes from 60 to 70, not just one from 1 to 70.
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    Weaver Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyraele View Post
    Yeah, CUL is the one I want at 70, because Jellied Compote is prohibitively expensive. I do get the feeling that leveling craftsmen up may actually not be economically a win over just buying food as I need it, but I'm going to ignore that feeling and see how it pans out. :P
    Any time something is crazy expensive in crafting, it's because there is a time sink connected to it. You will get to a point in Culi where you find it all hinges on one or two components that if you buy you lose Gil on making an item but getting said components means leveling other classes. Gathering in this case. I looked at the recipe for Jellied Compote and that's going to be the case. Level Gathering classes with the intent to make Jellied Compote. You might end up selling resources used to make it and get enough Gil you don't even need to make your own.
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