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    Quote Originally Posted by Alisi View Post
    When did leaving your healing buddy to rez everyone become a thing?
    I can't really try to justify this, or to find one single fitting explanation as I don't know the full circumstances - could be anything, really.

    It COULD be SC, though. If they're mostly DPSing then it's likely that, as people before my post said, that they weren't sitting on SC (instead using it for DPS, shielding etc.), and the fight is reasonably easy that you can get away with waiting some 20 secs for SC to be back up rather than bothering to hard cast. Done this myself, to be honest :P If, in the mean time, your MH rezzed the downed person, well - nice bonus, time to go back to DPSing!

    If that was the case though and they had it on CD - then xNewbx's macro suggestion is actually really cool, if nothing else then at least to let your team what's up with you not rezzing people (in fact thanks, I'm now stealing this macro for my own use )

    @Dzian - yeah, good one, that's also a thing. Rezzing people right before mechanics/heavy inc damage is more risky than it's worth. As for the "infinite MP for SCHs" part, though, the only thing I've got to ask is if you've ever healed a messy 24 man, because no MP pool is infinite in those :P
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    Last edited by Spiroglyph; 07-29-2017 at 10:03 AM.

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    Took me a while to get good at raising people. I'm on controller and when I started I would click swiftcast and raise so quick together that the rez wouldn't stick and I'd end up wasting SC on a spell I didn't intend it for. That's become far less of an issue now, but other reasons I may not rez / wait to rez include:

    -- low mp / thin air on cooldown (thin air can cover for low mp if it's up)
    -- I'm busy dodging a mechanic or recovering the group from a mechanic
    -- I know a mechanic is about to go off and me not getting hit by that is more important
    -- The same person keeps dying to the same stupid thing over and over (we need a wipe so they can be given instructions...)
    -- More than one person died and the person I did rez had higher priority than the one I didn't. (sorry dps)
    -- I'm holding off on rezzing until I get a safe opening to do so.

    Since I have vision issues and can't always easily tell what my co-healer or other players are doing, at times I will leave a few second delay to make sure someone else doesn't already have the rez covered, leaving me to refill health once the person gets up.
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    /p <recast.Swiftcast> Swiftcast

    Will tell your party members the time left on your swiftcast. Just put it as a button. If you don't want an extra button to add to your arsenal, just make it into one button:

    /p <recast.Swiftcast> Swiftcast
    /ac "Swiftcast"

    This will call out the time remaining and then try to use it
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    Only time I let someone stay dead is when they've screwed mechanics so many times, it's better to leave them dead; Susano's lightning mechanic being my most recent trigger.

    I've even tried to alleviate some of the screw ups by dragging people over the divide with rescue, just to receive hate mail about why I dragged them to get hit by "my" lightning, of which I send them 2 video links, 1 of them having lightning and a second one to an ophthalmologist advertisement so they can get their tunnel vision checked.

    Fun times all around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alisi View Post
    Why is it that so many of my co-healers simply ignore the dead in the party? Lately, I'm finding a good 70 ~ 80% of my co-healers simply do not rez anyone -- or only the co-healer or tanks. Has anyone else noticed this pattern?
    Generally I raise people when I feel it's safe to do so.

    To contradict your argument I'm going to ask why do so many healers raise people the instant they go down?
    Knowing that 4 times out of 5 that dead person is going to accept that raise straight away and then instantly die again to the next mechanic...

    Even my co healers won't get raised straight away many times in hw content my co healer would go down and might stay down for upto a minute simply because getting them up is low on my list of priorities at that particular moment.

    Not sure how accurate it is now in 4.0. As my highest healer is currently 66. But in 3.0 it often depended on the healers jobs. If your party had a scholar and whm for example then generally the scholar did the raising because they're mp was virtually infinite and a whms mp was a lot more limited. Whms tossing out raises would run out of mp very quickly. Scholars could raise several times and not even dent there mp pools
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    Last edited by Dzian; 07-29-2017 at 08:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    To contradict your argument I'm going to ask why do so many healers raise people the instant they go down?
    Knowing that 4 times out of 5 that dead person is going to accept that raise straight away and then instantly die again to the next mechanic...
    I don't mean that I expect instant rez or that I expect my co-healers to rez when the mechanics of the fight don't allow it. Hell, for that matter, I give new healers a pass if it's their first time healing a fight. I don't expect my co-healer to have MP to rez if that healer has none. I don't expect SC to magically come off CD at my whim.

    None of those. I'm talking about the people don't don't rez anyone. Regardless of the situation. They sit on nearly full MP and just DPS while two of the people are dead. I mean, if two or more people are dead, WTF is my co-healer doing DPSing? A healer doing DPS is all good and well, but it's not going to match a DPS's DPS. LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fealow View Post
    Wtf is going on?
    Thank you. It feels so crazy to even say this aloud. I held back a bit because I figured I must be the crazy one but I started to actually watch for this and have been finding it happening more and more frequently.
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    Yup I've had this happen to me a lot the past few days in the omega savage duties, both WHMs and SCHs just not rezzing (I play AST). I even had one run where I rezzed every single death myself and low and behold I was still able to somehow manage my mana and DPS while the other healer was sitting on 25%~

    Wtf is going on? It's not even as if im beating them to it every time. If I was the last healer to rez I will give a grace period to the other healer before I attempt to do it myself, but nope they're just standing their in a mid cast broil or stone...
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    Last edited by Fealow; 07-29-2017 at 10:39 AM.

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