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    Naomi Enami
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    SO imagine if SAM had the following:

    1. 20% ahead of the next highest DPS (which is true in all cases except BLM).
    2. Slashing Resistance Down.
    3. Piercing Resistance Down.
    3. Trick Attack.
    4. Shadewalker.
    5. Battle Litany.
    6. Foe Requiem.
    Now tell me of ANY reason to bring anything other than 2 SAM in melee if not for the LB penalty.

    Even easier imagine NIN doing the same DPS as SAM while keeping everything else the same.

    That is exactly the situation of the tanks right now. Because right now, PLD has the following:

    1. Same or higher DPS compared to the other two tanks.
    2. Roughly same mitigation as WAR and miles ahead of DRK.
    3. All forms of utility previously available to DRK is now available to PLD via role.
    4. 4 forms of unique utility not available to ANY other class or role in game in the forms of Cover (which makes you take 20% less than the other target would), Divine Veil (AoE TBN), Passage of Arms (50% better than SCH/AST bubbles) and CD sharing via Intervention.
    5. Only tank that can emergency heal allies via Clemency. Albeit at massive cost to DPS.

    Think and ponder carefully why such is the case then tell me that PLD does not either need a DPS nerf or utility removal, inversely the other tanks need to be at least 10% ahead in DPS, which is 300+ DPS in our current gear levels.

    ~ Phoenicia ~
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    Last edited by Phoenicia; 08-02-2017 at 03:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenicia View Post
    Think and ponder carefully why such is the case then tell me that PLD does not either need a DPS nerf or utility removal, inversely the other tanks need to be at least 10% ahead in DPS, which is 300+ DPS in our current gear levels.
    Here is the thing, I am a huge friend of buffs over nerfs, as buffs are generally met with more positive feelings than negative ones. I, personally, think that both DRK and WAR need some raid mitigation back to be able to compete with the DPS and the raid mitigation abilities a PLD brings. I am against a PLD nerf because I would prefer seeing a buff to both DRK and WAR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    Here is the thing, I am a huge friend of buffs over nerfs, as buffs are generally met with more positive feelings than negative ones. I, personally, think that both DRK and WAR need some raid mitigation back to be able to compete with the DPS and the raid mitigation abilities a PLD brings. I am against a PLD nerf because I would prefer seeing a buff to both DRK and WAR.
    I'm not really asking for a nerf. I can finally enjoy PLD because I feel useful and strong. I'm just pointing out the giant elephant in the room for everyone that tries to ignore it when they laughably say: "Tanks are balanced because same DPS" or something of the same level of hilarity. :P
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