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  1. #61
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    Eli85's Avatar
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    Eldred Draconis
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    There are no issues with the queue times nor is anyone obligated to help you (stop being entitled, go and get it done yourself). The longest I've had to wait (on BLM) this week for either expert roulettes or deltascape normal is 15 or so mins. I had a bunch of runs pop around the 5 minute mark.

    The only thing that is 'bad' right now are the late starters (like myself) trying to get into extreme primals and savage. Virtually every group on party finder is duty complete. The wait times on DF can be very long, and the groups fruitless, though I'm not sure what SE can do about it.
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    We were playing a different game at 3.0 launch then, because healers and tanks had the longest ques. Everyone was on DRK hype train.



    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...or_we_are_now/
    Can you show a picture about DPS queue time 4 weeks after 3.0 launch, after the new jobs were not new anymore?
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    Last edited by Felis; 07-31-2017 at 02:35 AM.

  3. #63
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    Nicodemus Mercy
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    I don't get how anyone would need "help with experts". If you mean queue times, no one is obligated to "help" shorten them for you as dps nor are you "forced" to buy crafted gear from the market. As the most prolific role (dps), short of making non-dps friends (which is entirely up to you), your only other option is to level a non dps role yourself and enjoy the sweet sweet instant queues and free grade 6 materia that comes with being in demand. If you're not comfortable with a leadership role, be a healer. You still get to dps, you just have to hps the green bars from time to time as well, and being able to juggle both is very satisfying.

    Neither SE, nor the playerbase as a whole, have any obligation to shorten your queue times. You have the power to do that yourself by either making non-dps friends or leveling a non dps class yourself. If you refuse to do either then your predicament is a situation of your own making.

    If dps queue times aren't your issue then I am hard-pressed to think of what sort of "help with experts" you're looking for.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    The only thing that is 'bad' right now are the late starters (like myself) trying to get into extreme primals and savage. Virtually every group on party finder is duty complete. The wait times on DF can be very long, and the groups fruitless, though I'm not sure what SE can do about it.
    The solution to this is to make your own learning/progression group. I don't know about Primal, but Aether still has plenty of learning/progression/clear parties for Lakshmi Ex, Susano Ex, and Omega Savage, and they fill up rather quickly as well, with vets and newbies alike. It's as easily rectifiable as the OP's situation: go and get it done yourself.
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    The solution to this is to make your own learning/progression group. I don't know about Primal, but Aether still has plenty of learning/progression/clear parties for Lakshmi Ex, Susano Ex, and Omega Savage, and they fill up rather quickly as well, with vets and newbies alike. It's as easily rectifiable as the OP's situation: go and get it done yourself.
    I did raid group organizing / leading for years. Put in my due. I'm not dealing with that stress any more. So no, not a solution.

    Not complaining about it either. Just more stating it as a state of affairs.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakeos View Post
    That problem waited 30 mins for PF to fill up for tank/healer's and dps and yet don't have FC that online right now to help or friends (even though i'm aussie player)
    Lv up a crafter or gathering while waiting once you get high enough of you can start making money so you can buy that 10 mil gear on the mb or make the gear yourself.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    I did raid group organizing / leading for years. Put in my due. I'm not dealing with that stress any more. So no, not a solution.

    Not complaining about it either. Just more stating it as a state of affairs.
    I wasn't saying start organizing or hosting weekly PF events or forming a static. O.o I was merely saying if you don't see a "learning party for X content" make your own rather than say "there's no way for late-comers to clear this content because PF is all Duty Complete/farm groups."

    A solution to all "late-comers", not just you, is to form their own learning group if they do not see one in the Party Finder. I see way too often posters complaining about "there's no X content learning groups, only farm parties! How am I supposed to get a clear!" on this forum when the solution is obvious: do it yourself. State of affairs that is, again, easily rectifiable if people step up and take initiative.

    If people aren't willing to do that, then they don't really need to complain about the "state of affairs" they aren't taking any steps to change.
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  8. #68
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    Elfidan Gadfor
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    I don't understand the issue... I leveled RDM to 70 using duty finder almost exclusively(I did a ton of frontline pre-60 because the wait was generally 5-6 minutes compared to 2 hours for 1-60 stuff). It only took me about a week to get 70 and full 310 doing this. I can understand being upset when people are trying to sell their own participation (as they did on ultros), but you can't really say they are doing anything wrong just because they are being buttholes. Have you tried using the party finder ,and shouting for members to speed run stuff? When you hit 70 tome farming would be easy this way if you use the magitech mount in Alamigo as your carrot on a stick. I'm sorry you're frustrated , but I hope you try some of these alternatives to improve your situation.
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    If there was a downvote button I'd be pressing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windwalker View Post
    Potd is a bad and risky way to level. If you group fails or someone leaves all that time spent is completely wasted.
    What!? Potd is better xp than anything, even leveling roulette. It's almost impossible to fail a 50-59.
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  10. #70
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    i320 pieces are like 300-500k each. 10m wut?
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