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    Player
    Galgarion's Avatar
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    Famine Cruor
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 70

    Can warriors have flash back?

    i know, I know, git gud, I suck, I get it. But seriously, listen: I'm getting old, things don't work like they used to, my reflexes are utter crap. Having flash was great as a warrior, because it made it easier for me to do big pulls. Running into a group, flash, move on. Non-targeted aoe threat is a treat, it's wonderful and I'd really like it back without having to burn a steel cyclone. Always have to make sure I hit that first overpower just right is such a hassle, especially with my whack old man hands. Help me out, Square!
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    Jace Ossura
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    Flash over Ultimatum any day
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Sure, if they're emotionnal enough. I'm guessing some of them still have PTSD from 2.0
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    Kai Amaryllis
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    I second what OP says. Burning through so much more TP and after playing since 2.0 it's instinct for me to hit flash and it's not there QQ Just would be great to have it back pretty much from a QoL standpoint really.
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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Shinigami Zetta
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    Balmung
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    Ultimatum is pretty much a quick recovery, as a War I rarely even bother with it flash....maybe because I know how my skilsl work and know how to balance TP. Also you are aware if you use an item like Max potion while pulling,or certain abilities, it triggers you to start at top enmity right? If you have a healer who cast before hand just stay a bit in front and be ready to aoe. It's simple. If this is still to hard use DRK or even PLD.
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    Nic Pay
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    Exodus
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Ultimatum is pretty much a quick recovery, as a War I rarely even bother with it flash....maybe because I know how my skilsl work and know how to balance TP. Also you are aware if you use an item like Max potion while pulling,or certain abilities, it triggers you to start at top enmity right? If you have a healer who cast before hand just stay a bit in front and be ready to aoe. It's simple. If this is still to hard use DRK or even PLD.
    reason warrior is gona be my last tank to level I hate just using over power to do the same pulls on warrior u gota work twice as hard on positioning
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    silverlunarfox's Avatar
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    Loki Lux
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    Lamia
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Flash over Ultimatum any day
    I wanted to like ultimatum, but I think its crap imo. I don't even bother with it anymore. I just dance alot with overpower and a steel cyclone thrown in if i have the gauge.

    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    reason warrior is gona be my last tank to level I hate just using over power to do the same pulls on warrior u gota work twice as hard on positioning
    I don't blame you. Warrior was nicer with flash on big pulls. Now its alot more praying you hit everything with overpower. Yeah I look ridiculous dancing around to do it....but you know....it has to be done. The end result is usually worth it though...usually...
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    "Within each of us, the potential for great power waits to be released."

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    Thunda_Cat_SMASH's Avatar
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverlunarfox View Post
    Now its alot more praying you hit everything with overpower.
    Um... what? Speaking as someone who's mained WAR since 2.X Flash was already an already low tier skill to use that I dumped the second I got gud at aiming OP. Flash was pretty useless so long as you had an onze of positioning sense! Flash became even more worthless once you got Equilibrium at 58, so again, WUT? If you know how to tank, the only dancing you need to do is to dodge AoEs. Equilibrium is leagues better for pulling than Flash ever was.
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    Atabey Guabancex
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    Behemoth
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Agree with Thunda. Besides, as a War, it's best to learn to keep enemies always in front of you so you can make the best use of Raw Intuition.
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    Loki Lux
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    snippity snip
    Next time include the second half of my sentence. It was nice and situational in bigger mobs just in case you couldn't catch everything, some dps do like hitting mobs before positioning happens. Equilibrium is also not an aggro hold specific ability. So please take this elsewhere.


    Now on to other matters. I've been working heavily with Warrior since the changes in 4.0. While Flash was nice and situational, I have found reason to work in more steel cyclones to make up for it. The now added as of 4.05 HP gain to steel cyclone was fantastic. It may take some interesting work of combos to increase the gauge, but on trash pulls I tend to either save for a cyclone or am close enough to quickly combo into a cyclone. So in the end not having flash has fallen lower on my list of needs.



    My need for Bloodbath remains unchanged however....damn dirty DPS taking it >.>
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    "Within each of us, the potential for great power waits to be released."

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