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    TheCount's Avatar
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    Warden Azem
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalocin View Post
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    You're trying to make the DRk sound more complex than it really is, and anyone who has played them will know its nonsense how simple it is.

    Here's your average dungeon: Pull > blood price + unleash/abyssal drain spam and drop a salted earth > when out of mana use your one combo that you'll ever use to get some mana back and continue using AOE on repeat, hope you enjoy pressing a single button for most of the dungeon because that's what you're going to be doing > if 64+ in level throw in an ocasional quietus and continue the spam once that terrible complexity is over with.

    That's it. That's literally all there is to it. The majority of that is spamming unleash/abyssal drain and using your one combo to get mana back so you can do it some more.


    Here's your single target rotation if you're not absolute max level: Use your one combo path on repeat while dark artsing everything, ocasionally dark artsing carve and spit instead when it gets off the cooldown. Damn. So complex. Bloodspiller ocasionally if you're near max level and actually have it, which I can guarantee you the majority of the dungeons you'll do you won't. In the few instances you'll do an actual level 70 dungeon you will get it ever so slightly more interesting because you have TBN, not that that's some terrible complexity either. Just use it just before some damage is gonna hit you and use the blood you get from it for another bloodspiller. yay.

    Dark Knight is dead-simple nowadays and doesn't require many buttons to be pressed at all, specifically in dungeons what the OP was asking. The majority of your time spend will be using your one AOE ability on repeat there. There's a reason why people are so easily able to reach optimal dps levels on Dark Knights, it's because you quite literally can't go wrong. You could smash your face on the keyboard and do well with them.
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    Last edited by TheCount; 07-28-2017 at 09:59 PM.

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    Letho Orwyth
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    Leviathan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
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    Not at all, I said it was smooth in the sense that it feels easier to run dungeons with them... I actually forgot to include salted earth in there too haha. I actually think they're pretty easy to play but that's not the question, the question was about buttons and it's wrong to say they only use a few... Unless you're just doing the bare minimum of course.
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    Lythia Norvaine
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
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    I suspect that you probably haven't played DRK in a while, but the new Quietus change has created a lot of different interactions with multiple targets present. Quietus generates 0.2 DA worth of MP per hit. This can be then used to fuel TBN, which can generate another Quietus. If TBN is on cooldown, the MP can go towards AD. If you cap, you lose potency, so excess should go into DA DP, and can optionally go into DA AD if you want more sustain. The role of Delirium with multiple targets is a bit unclear. Theoretically, under BW, Quietus can generate enough blood to generate more Quietus if you have enough mobs (perhaps with some help from Salted Earth), but you need a large amount of mobs to do so, and AD doesn't proc BW (this is probably more of a consideration if you're off-tanking in an AoE heavy fight than dungeons). Delirium-BP is an option, in that you generate a minimum of 40 blood over 30 seconds on top of any additional blood that you gain from hits, so it at least pays for itself if you get hit 10 times in the window.

    I'm not sure how that matches up to Flash > TE or Overpower > Decimate in terms of difficulty, but everyone struggles with different things, I suppose.
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