How a Shapeshifter Could Work in FFXIV

[Kazrah]

I suppose you're right, they could make one, I just don't think shapeshifter when I think FF. In ffxi blue mages could tank some. I'd love to see a blue mage tank.

I have a feel a lot of people have that mentality on shapeshifters in Final Fantasy. My guess is because they didn't play Final Fantasy Tactics Advance.



This is the Morpher class from that game, and the inspiration behind my concept for Sorcerer. It would fight by assuming a stance of a monster and then actually transforming into that monster when performing an attack from that monster, and it had access to every ability that monster could use. The only thing I wasn't a fan of about it was its outfit since it just felt far too generic.

Now Blue Mage was in that game too, but like most Blue Mages in Final Fantasy's history, it wore lighter outfits and was about as tanky as any other average melee class, being able to take just enough hits to learn a spell without dying. Between that, the lack of tanking abilities in its average arsenal throughout the whole series and the fact that less than half of all the types of Blue Mages in every Final Fantasy game ever made had absolutely no choice but to get hit by an ability to learn it (pretty sure even BLU of FFXI could still see a spell to learn it as well) was why I usually made my Blue Mage concepts as melee DPS rather than as tanks. Now that's not to say Blue Mage couldn't be made as a tank--with how Red Mage was brought in, I think anything's on the table now--but there may be some reservations when looking at job traditions throughout Final Fantasy history.

[Zarabeth]

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You're correct, at least in my case. I have not played FF Tactics Advanced. That morpher is adorable. In FFXI Blue Mages had to learn their spells from monsters which is why I never liked the class and didn't play it. Since I was a RDM I did end up helping my BLU friends get their spells though. I hated it!
I still think a BLU as a tank job could be done fairly easily and the shifter idea is growing on me.

[Shippuu]

You may not have said it, but the negative attitude you've displayed in every single post you've put into this thread certainly screams it in volumes.

That's not how it works buddy, but ok. Just because you don't like that someone poked glaring holes in your idea that you thought you had really thought out doesn't mean you get to put words in their mouth that they never said.

Just makes me glad that it's not the whiny pessimists who make this game better than its competitors, but the optimists who can take fascinating--sometimes even different ideas--and put them into the game.

Well then I guess I'm glad the clueless dreamers with no sense of realism or understanding of the reality of the situations have zero say on anything being added to the game.

[Kazrah]

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Okay then, let's see you come with something. I'll wait until then to take your criticisms seriously from now on.

[Shippuu]

Okay then, let's see you come with something. I'll wait until then to take your criticisms seriously from now on.

I don't need to jump through any hoops. You're incapable of actually taking realistic criticism or looking at things from the bigger picture from a developmental standpoint.

Instead of adressing the entirely valid and logical criticisms you would instead prefer to make such immature responses. You clearly aren't interested in having your ideas challenged in the slightest likely because of your own ego, so we're done here.

[Kazrah]

so we're done here.

I'll take criticism, and have no problem admitting that yes, there are flaws just like every other job in the game. That's why I bring my concepts to these forums: to get feedback. Not just the positive remarks, but the constructive criticisms that can show not just flaws in the concept, but how to cover them make the concept better overall.

What I won't take though is the sheer arrogance you've been bringing into this thread while offering absolutely nothing positive or productive to the concept. From nearly every poster in this thread and the other job threads I've done, I've learned something I can take away from to apply to future job concepts, especially for Blue Mage. Instead of saying something like "this doesn't really work, how about trying it this way" or "maybe if it was done with something different, that would help", you've just been nothing but condescending, and I have no intention of dealing with it.