What happened to SB (story)?

[Jandor]

And it's worth noting this 'requirement' was partially undermined when Illberd summons an entirely fabricated primal without any real religious zeal, just a very angry speech and a bunch of blood 'sacrifices'.

Primals are definitely getting a bit silly.
Originally they required huge piles of crystals, a lot of worshipers and a complicated summoning ritual taught by the Ascians.
Now though, they apparently require none of that, one very upset snake lady is enough to bring them into being.

[DamianFatale]

Primals are definitely getting a bit silly.
Originally they required huge piles of crystals, a lot of worshipers and a complicated summoning ritual taught by the Ascians.
Now though, they apparently require none of that, one very upset snake lady is enough to bring them into being.

It wasn't just her. Her servents clearly helped her.

[TankHunter678]

Primals are definitely getting a bit silly.
Originally they required huge piles of crystals, a lot of worshipers and a complicated summoning ritual taught by the Ascians.
Now though, they apparently require none of that, one very upset snake lady is enough to bring them into being.

When it came to lakshmi this was the very first summoning, so it is likely that it was a case that their traditions and constant gem work as well as meticulous storage resulted in over time the building of conditions that other beast tribes rush through to resummon their primals as quickly as possible.

Just like the case of Susano, and how his artifacts were revered alongside all of the other artifacts for a long, long, time leading to this first time summoning. In ARR and HW nearly every primal summoning was intended, or was a direct result of tampering with their cage. Here in SB they were accidents that were completely unintended, but conditions were finally right for a jumpstart summoning.

You also got to remember that back in ARR/HW there was one situation where a complex summoning ritual was not used for Titan. Instead the sheer grief felt by one kobold child that discovered its parents dead and unresponsive next to a pile of crystals was enough to jumpstart summon Titan. Leading to Titan killing some of the nearby kobolds before we took it on in a trial fight where instead of its normal lines it was titan mindlessly repeating the same crying of the kobold child that summoned him through that sheer force of grief.

[Maero]

The SB story was a bit rushed, Lyse did not really have all too much of a role and Zenos they could/should have prolonged his story and make the struggle a bit longer for free Ala Mhigo.
All the build up and we basically free Ala Mhigo and Zenos is no longer just fell flat to me.
It was the same back when with the Warriors of Dark which could have stayed longer but at least it was not nearly as short as Zenos.

That aside however i think the story was really good, just needed to be expanded into next few patches.

[Daralii]

Primals are definitely getting a bit silly.
Originally they required huge piles of crystals, a lot of worshipers and a complicated summoning ritual taught by the Ascians.
Now though, they apparently require none of that, one very upset snake lady is enough to bring them into being.

Gemcrafting is a cornerstone of Ananta society. It's not exactly a stretch to think they had enough aether accumulated in all the jewels around them to unintentionally summon a primal.

[Dualgunner]

Yeah, but we don't do anything to overcome it, aside from level up; while we use a magic artifact to beat Stockholm Lady. It's confusing.

I wouldn't underestimate "leveling up", and a lot of job quests do have us go an almost entire tier of power up from 68-70 (iirc we're not technically capped by the time we fight Fordola)

Not to mention who knows the side effects of Scientist Man using the astral projection talisman on us.

[Xerxus___]

All that bothers me is that the WoL never got a slap in the damn face, or being at the brinck of death literally lose EVERYTHING i mean everything and becomes an absolute normal human and not the chose one, THATS what the story needs and not Zenos punching us with a damn samurai sword in our chest, and the Wol says i lost my pride. Thats the only problem I have, the pure consequence of falling on u feet becoming a no one and fight your way back, but not a as WoL but a man who camt from nothing to something bigger.

[Galgarion]

Primals are definitely getting a bit silly.
Originally they required huge piles of crystals, a lot of worshipers and a complicated summoning ritual taught by the Ascians.
Now though, they apparently require none of that, one very upset snake lady is enough to bring them into being.

Ilberd didn't need any crystals for his summoning. He had Nidhogg's eyes to provide all the energy he needed. And Cosmic Kirby was wrong about the Ala Migan's not having any religious zeal: They died full of hate, praying for vengeance. They were the ones doing the summoning, Ilberd merely shaped their hate. He was the one who decided it had to be a dragon.

[Galgarion]

And it's worth noting this 'requirement' was partially undermined when Illberd summons an entirely fabricated primal without any real religious zeal, just a very angry speech and a bunch of blood 'sacrifices'. There wasn't really a ritual either, he just got really angry and used a bunch of aether in some dragon eyes (Which somehow weren't spent YET, but will be AFTER...) to summon what is apparently a primal strong enough to rival Bahamut. (Which was probably summoned by a whole SLEW of dragons, with a lot more eyes than just two, and should be far more powerful....)

Nidhogg wasn't 'some' Dragon though. He was one of the first Brood. He was so powerful that when he called for a new war against Ishgard, it woke Midgardsomr up from being dead. Nothing against the slew of dragons who summoned Bahamaut, but even in their thousands, they were still small fry compared to Nid. Besides, it wasn't the power of their eyes that was being used to fuel Bah. The Alagans had crystals aplenty for that.

[Dualgunner]

All that bothers me is that the WoL never got a slap in the damn face, or being at the brinck of death literally lose EVERYTHING i mean everything and becomes an absolute normal human and not the chose one, THATS what the story needs and not Zenos punching us with a damn samurai sword in our chest, and the Wol says i lost my pride. Thats the only problem I have, the pure consequence of falling on u feet becoming a no one and fight your way back, but not a as WoL but a man who camt from nothing to something bigger.

I'd say Zenos beating us was a slap in the face. If someone should rob us if everything and put us on the brink it shouldn't be Zenos but rather Elidibus. And it should happen in our highest high, not while we're slinging dirt with the rebels coming from another defeat which was Omega v Shinryu (I do not call any part of that situation anything less than humiliating on our part for playing straight into Ilberd's hands)