What happened to SB (story)?

[ElHeggunte]

Why are we comparing the first chapter of SB to the entire story of ARR and HW? Comparing a story that's only just started a few months ago to two story lines that spanned two years each is silly.

[Jandor]

Why are we comparing the first chapter of SB to the entire story of ARR and HW? Comparing a story that's only just started a few months ago to two story lines that spanned two years each is silly.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm really not doing that. I'm comparing HW in 3.0 to SB in 4.0, IMHO HW had a better story at release than SB does.

Honestly though, it would be a pretty fair comparison anyway. The Dragonsong war wasn't over until 3.3, the liberation of Ala Mhigo and Doma is done by the end of 4.0.

[SendohJin]

Why are we comparing the first chapter of SB to the entire story of ARR and HW? Comparing a story that's only just started a few months ago to two story lines that spanned two years each is silly.

I'm only comparing the journey with Alphinaud, Estinien and Ysayle, from stepping into Ishgard to getting through Azys Lla and taking down Thordan with the hodgepodge mix of SB characters.

SB is very FF4/6 where part of the journey is recruiting new characters, HW is more FF1/3 where you pretty much start with your group.

[Kallera]

I wasn't a fan of Alisaie either. They are really trying too hard to push the "Alphinaud is a Alpha nerd" angle, when he pretty much saved HW's story in my eyes.

[Remus]

I prefer the HW story compared to SB. I don't like how so many issues was just solved so easily in SB. You save 2 nations with hardly any problems. At least with HW there was some hiccups when it came to ending the war and you didn't even beat Nidhogg until 3.3 was it? HW just feels so much more impactful compared to SB where almost the only thing that went wrong was the resistance camp getting invaded and that's it. Everything else most of the time was just sunshine and rainbows and stopping 2 wars.

The only good part of the story was the Azim steppe but besides that the rest was pretty mediocre compared to HW 3.0. By the end of HW you win but you recognize the loss you had through out your journey getting there and beating Thordan. You could see from just looking at the Ishgard the type of atmosphere it portrays and what impact it has on the expansion.

Sadly, I can't even remember the people that died in SB because they are just that unmemorable in the journey for saving Doma/Ala Mhigo. While HW made you build up relationships with these characters so when they died they had a lasting effect on you because you remember them clearly and you learnt more about this character but they were taken away.

ARR made us feel like the main character. HW made us feel like the main character. SB? Just felt like I was there for the ride and that's it. Yoshi-p even said in a interview the WoL is still the MC of the story in SB but honestly didn't feel like it.

I really hope we go back to dealing with Ascians and learning more about Zodiark. There is so much we don't know that I would love to learn more about it. I hate how they handled the WoD I was hoping the WoD would stick around but SE basically killed them off in a patch while introducing them at the end of the expansion like some huge thing.

I honestly HOPE they go deeper into the Resonant and actually talk about and learn how the Echo actually works (when did we know how to make some kind of echo barrier? Never seen this done). This thing has been there since 1.0 but they have never had a patch where we learn about it because so far so many villains or allies keep giving different descriptions on it.

[Alleo]

ARR made us feel like the main character. HW made us feel like the main character. SB? Just felt like I was there for the ride and that's it. Yoshi-p even said in a interview the WoL is still the MC of the story in SB but honestly didn't feel like it.

Thats exactly another problem I have with SB. I am fine if my character is not in the main light all the time and if someone else beats the big bad enemy or does something successful, its fine that they will get the praise. But in SB it was most of the time thanks to us that they even won. Yugiri and the WoL were the one that raised the moral of the villagers, it was the WoL that got the title in the Azim Steppe (and was completely side lined after that..) even if this was still a group effort. But then comes the biggest annoyance...Ala Mhigo..we storm the city and defeat all the big enemies and defeat not only Zenos but Shinryu too..who is the one that gets to be in front of all? Lyse! While the one that even made it possible had do stand behind her. Couldnt we at least have stood next to her in that scene? It really hit home at that moment how our character does so much but gets pushed back for some NPC to shine..

[ErryK]

Ruby Sea looks nothing like a river... ._.

[Xiomara]

Ruby Sea looks nothing like a river... ._.

Doesn't look much like a sea either. More a lake.

[Felis]

Doesn't look much like a sea either. More a lake.

Maybe a very, very, very big lake

[Naunet]

Maybe a very, very, very big lake

I mean, it feels like about the size of Lake Superior and only a little bigger than something like say Lake Constance.