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    In my honest opinion, both from a writing/lore/gameplay PoV, HW fell completely flat at every turn. Sure, it was trying to tell an epic story, but... about who? Very few, if any, characters in HW were memorable beyond Alisaie and maybe the elf ruler bloke, but ultimately HW felt incredibly hollow, trying to tell an epic tale without any characters that really fit the bill of what such a story needs to really sell it.

    Conversely, SB was infinitely more human. Characters were better written, the dungeons and bosses were both memorable and unique, the supporting cast was infinitely stronger, and it felt like a much better more enjoyable experience. To me.

    As for deaths... I can't honestly name any deaths that happened in HW either. Did we ever actually lose anyone important? I'm pretty sure we didn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    In my honest opinion, both from a writing/lore/gameplay PoV, HW fell completely flat at every turn. Sure, it was trying to tell an epic story, but... about who? Very few, if any, characters in HW were memorable beyond Alisaie and maybe the elf ruler bloke, but ultimately HW felt incredibly hollow, trying to tell an epic tale without any characters that really fit the bill of what such a story needs to really sell it.

    Conversely, SB was infinitely more human. Characters were better written, the dungeons and bosses were both memorable and unique, the supporting cast was infinitely stronger, and it felt like a much better more enjoyable experience. To me.

    As for deaths... I can't honestly name any deaths that happened in HW either. Did we ever actually lose anyone important? I'm pretty sure we didn't.
    You can visit his grave in the Central Highlands, overlooking the Steps of Faith. There is even an emote named after him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    You can visit his grave in the Central Highlands, overlooking the Steps of Faith. There is even an emote named after him
    Who? I watched every cutscene throughout the story and I can't remember a single important character dying. Maybe a couple of weak side characters but those characters are rarely memorable in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Who? I watched every cutscene throughout the story and I can't remember a single important character dying. Maybe a couple of weak side characters but those characters are rarely memorable in the first place.
    who is or isn't memorable is very subjective. Ysayle is certainly not a weak side character in the HW story.

    i also like SB more than HW overall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Who? I watched every cutscene throughout the story and I can't remember a single important character dying. Maybe a couple of weak side characters but those characters are rarely memorable in the first place.
    I donno how to even respond to this, two characters died in HW to save us
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verdan View Post
    I donno how to even respond to this, two characters died in HW to save us
    I honestly struggle to even recall them or their names. Apparently one of them was the FFXIV equivalent of Danganronpa's TeruTeru, who I sorely wished to take a knife to because he was both sorely annoying and excessively creepy, but who's the other one? The elf ruler bloke? I'm pretty sure he's still alive cause I vaguely remember running into someone that at least looked like him in SB, but who else could it be? HW was sorely lacking in memorable characters at all. IMHO, YMMV, etc etc.

    Estinien? The big white dragon thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    I honestly struggle to even recall them or their names. Apparently one of them was the FFXIV equivalent of Danganronpa's TeruTeru, who I sorely wished to take a knife to because he was both sorely annoying and excessively creepy, but who's the other one? The elf ruler bloke? I'm pretty sure he's still alive cause I vaguely remember running into someone that at least looked like him in SB, but who else could it be? HW was sorely lacking in memorable characters at all. IMHO, YMMV, etc etc.

    Estinien? The big white dragon thing?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy0MnX1m7ww
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