Tank and Healer class suggestion.

[DeepbloodEclipse]

Hoplite puts me in mind of the General job in Fire Emblem, aethetically at least.

My only concern to add would be the fact that since SE has abandoned giving any job but PLD an off-hand after the fiasco that happened with Leviathan Mirrors, I doubt we'd see it used that way.

What about doing like Goofy does in Kingdome Hearts where the sheild is the weapon itself? Gigantic wall of a sheild that used to smack, bash, and block?

As for the Chemist inspired healer, I had made a similar idea! A pre-Magitek combatant, old-school Garlean could teach us their old techniques, although I prefaced it in regards of how they could take care of themselves without the use of Conjury. Thus, combat Alchemist. :P

Regarding to the shield only thing, my original idea was actually completely different, a long time ago I played this Chinese MMO that had this Monk class and it was basically a tank with one of it's weapons of choice being called the "Wheel", which was exactly what it sounds like, so my idea originally was that the character indeed does use one big shield that maybe has bladed edges or something and fights with it something akin to Tira from Soulcalibur, sounds cool in retrospect, but I have no idea how to implement it into FF:XIV.

As for self healing for the CPS, maybe a different animation, instead of firing out a grenade, the CPS instead uses a syringe for him-/herself or fire's a grenade into the air above themself

[Kazrah]

I also really like the idea of using a 'nade Launcher, I'll edit the post. Also, I'm not really familiar with the lore of Thavnaria, if you can somewhow work it into the lore, then by all means, assist me

Thavnair is an island nation in the south of Eorzea known for outfits pulled right out of 1001 Arabian Nights and better known for being a nation of master alchemists. There's probably some more info you can get from googling "FFXIV Thavnair", but my guess is that there could be some excuse of Thavnair weaponizing their alchemy for some reason or another.

With Hoplite, just make sure it stays about as far off from PLD not just in terms of shield stuff and toys, but also in terms of attacks and making sure they're using their shields differently.

[DeepbloodEclipse]

Thavnair is an island nation in the south of Eorzea known for outfits pulled right out of 1001 Arabian Nights and better known for being a nation of master alchemists. There's probably some more info you can get from googling "FFXIV Thavnair", but my guess is that there could be some excuse of Thavnair weaponizing their alchemy for some reason or another.

With Hoplite, just make sure it stays about as far off from PLD not just in terms of shield stuff and toys, but also in terms of attacks and making sure they're using their shields differently.

I can understand their alchemical developments, but according to the lore, they are not very advanced in technology, so firearms for them seems like a stretch.

As for the Difference in playstyle, hmm...well, since it uses piercing attacks it works together well with a DRG, BRD and MCH. But I'm thinking that if the Capsarius were to use the repeater, then we'd also have a healer that benefits from their defense reduction buffs, but if Capsarius uses a Launcher, I guess the grenades would register as Blunt damage.

Something I had in mind with the Hoplites tower shield is that if your teammates stand behind you, they take reduced damage as well, but then I felt like I'm ripping off TERA's Lancer class and scratched it, but do you think such a thing could work?

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Something I had in mind with the Hoplites tower shield is that if your teammates stand behind you, they take reduced damage as well, but then I felt like I'm ripping off TERA's Lancer class and scratched it, but do you think such a thing could work?

Well I mean thats passage of arms, so sure

[Kazrah]

I can understand their alchemical developments, but according to the lore, they are not very advanced in technology, so firearms for them seems like a stretch.

It depends on what kind of weapon tech it is. Maybe not something like what we see with MCH, but something like a small launcher isn't exactly that much of a stretch for an alchemical delivery system, whether it be a small, simple shoulder cannon or a simpler launching device like a bigger crossbow or a smaller catapult.

[DeepbloodEclipse]

Well I mean thats passage of arms, so sure

Ah crap, I hadn't checked the PLD's new skills yet. Guess that idea is a bust too then.

[Hysterior]

I think a type of Chemist healer could be interesting.

[DeepbloodEclipse]

It depends on what kind of weapon tech it is. Maybe not something like what we see with MCH, but something like a small launcher isn't exactly that much of a stretch for an alchemical delivery system, whether it be a small, simple shoulder cannon or a simpler launching device like a bigger crossbow or a smaller catapult.

A slingshot then? Lol. But in all seriousness, there are some humanoid enemies that use slingshots as their weapons. Could be all Ussopp-like from One Piece

[Kazrah]

A slingshot then? Lol. But in all seriousness, there are some humanoid enemies that use slingshots as their weapons. Could be all Ussopp-like from One Piece

Not sure they're THAT technologically backward. If they could whip up tools for their alchemy, then I'm pretty sure a big tube with gunpowder in it wouldn't be that much of a stretch.

[TankHunter678]

Not sure they're THAT technologically backward. If they could whip up tools for their alchemy, then I'm pretty sure a big tube with gunpowder in it wouldn't be that much of a stretch.

Especially given how many MCH weapons look like grenade launchers rather then rifles.