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    Tint's Avatar
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    The token for the weapon drops from O4 normal doesn't it?
    yes it does. O4 normal drops a token once a week. you can exchange 7 tokens for another token. and with this other token and another 10 tokens you have to buy for tomestones you can get the weapon.
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    Mide Uyagir
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    yes it does. O4 normal drops a token once a week. you can exchange 7 tokens for another token. and with this other token and another 10 tokens you have to buy for tomestones you can get the weapon.
    Lol. I love SE's convoluted gearing system.

    Oh wait, did I say love? I meant hate.
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    Ethan Vayne
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    Ragnarok
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    Lol. I love SE's convoluted gearing system.

    Oh wait, did I say love? I meant hate.
    What's so convoluted of spending 1000 tomes and beating V4N 7 times?
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    Mide Uyagir
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    What's so convoluted of spending 1000 tomes and beating V4N 7 times?
    The fact that you get tokens to buy tokens to buy tokens....

    Textbook example of this game's item bloat. xD
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    Sylvina Eon
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    Exodus
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    Lol. I love SE's convoluted gearing system.

    Oh wait, did I say love? I meant hate.
    We heard you liked tokens so we put some token in your token so you can get tokens from tokens.
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    Jay Ichijou
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    Coeurl
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    Dark Knight Lv 74
    This is nothing new. Where have you been last expansion?
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    Iroira Sinzha
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    Coeurl
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aniond View Post
    The new trend is raid savage or don't get a weapon upgrade? During the last expansion everyone could get the new weapon just not the upgrade toke. I feel ripped off.
    You mean at the end of the expansion where you had to grind the relic weapon or do savage in order to have something at 270+?
    This is the very beginning of the new expansion, which is exactly the same way Heavensward was on the first months.

    Soon we'll be able to get the weapon with the 7 Omega tokens, on top of the first steps of the relic weapon.
    Until then, if you want a better weapon all you have to do is Savage, like every other time new raid tiers were introduced.
    It was exactly the same with all the 135 (if memory doesnt fail me) Coil weapons.
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    Lace Valeria
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    Jenova
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    Machinist Lv 80
    I do miss the Coil days where it only effectively took 3 weeks at best to get a new weapon (10 Rowena Tokens; 450+450+10, and the raid token, which was only obtainable from the raid until 24 man alliance raids started to get old, then they'd get added to it), but it was full of uncertainty. With some diligence, you can guaranteed get one in 7 weeks. 4 weeks wouldn't be so bad, but gotta keep the normal raid alive somehow. . .
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    Freyja Redgold
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Weapons have always been gated behind raids. The only exceptions were the relic in 2.0 and the eso i200 weapon at the beginning of HW (you directly bought it from the NPC with Tomestones, you only needed savage if you wanted to upgrade it to i210). It's not new, it's been like that since SCoB days.

    On top of that, if you don't do raids, you don't need the new weapons for any kind of content.
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    Vanitas Olterian
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Misinformation aside, people sure love to complain about content they'll never make any form of an effort to attempt nowadays.
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