Thread: Is SE really going to repeat the foruma from 2.0 and 3.0???

I think caps should be on a per-role basis. Even lower the caps if necessary.

This game advertises how multi-job friendly it is, yet does a very counter intuitive thing by roadblocking your character to having only 1-2 jobs at relevant iLvl.

I think a weekly cap is fine, but they should be per-role. Allow the players who play a lot more than others to progress in "width" rather than "depth"..
By that I mean everyone will be progressing at the same speed on one job, however those that have the time to play have the freedom of grinding out gear on alternative jobs and keep their gear iLvl relevant.

I think it's silly that with such a heavy focus on a "multi-armory" system, we are forced into this "main job" setup.

Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

If players don't intend to tackle Ex primals or Savage content, and just plan to do Daily Roulettes or more casual content, max ilvl is not needed. It's honestly overkill for the daily roulettes.

Daily Roulettes are synced to I310 anyways, no?

Originally Posted by Altena

I think caps should be on a per-role basis. Even lower the caps if necessary.

This game advertises how multi-job friendly it is, yet does a very counter intuitive thing by roadblocking your character to having only 1-2 jobs at relevant iLvl.

I think a weekly cap is fine, but they should be per-role. Allow the players who play a lot more than others to progress in "width" rather than "depth"..
By that I mean everyone will be progressing at the same speed on one job, however those that have the time to play have the freedom of grinding out gear on alternative jobs and keep their gear iLvl relevant.

I think it's silly that with such a heavy focus on a "multi-armory" system, we are forced into this "main job" setup.

DPS queues are already atrocious for certain bits of content. Imagine what they would be like come 4.1 when everyone who cared to level their tanks already geared them up alongside their preferred job-- if it wasn't tanks already. This also doesn't address the imbalance such a system has. Tanks and healers share all gear save their weapon whereas DPS are split into four categories: Striking, Maiming, Scouting and Casting. Of those four, Dragoon and Ninja have an entirely separate left side. What you're purposing only benefits tanks and healers... which routes to the aforementioned problem. Since I play all three roles actively, I'll give an example. It takes roughly fourteen weeks to gear your job in nothing but tomestone gear; essentially three months. If this were spaced out between each role... I wouldn't have a reason to queue into the 24-man content since the jobs I primarily play were geared previously.

The whole "main job" focus is community driven. You can clear everything, including Savage, with 310-320 gear. Your FFlogs may not be pretty and the checks tighter, but it's certainly doable. Which is how I suspect the devs see it. They don't care you can't do as much damage and get pretty numbers. For them, if you suddenly wanted to play DRG, go get the 310 stuff and play it-- even in Savage. It's statics that want specific jobs that enforce "maining" one or two, not the game itself.

Read most of the stuff. I see both points. Isn't this already tackled by both types of grind?
1) Tomes for those who can do daily routines.
2) Primals and normal raids for those who prefer altogether.

What am I missing exactly? Why are people repeating themselves?

Originally Posted by Altena

relevant iLvl.

Relevant Ilvl is 320. Also, multiple jobs share gear so if I focus on tanks and healers I can play up to 6 jobs. NIN and DRG are a problem, that's true.

Locking players from progressing in any content (tomestone cap/weekly lockout/whatever lockout) at their own pace is just a sign of poor design and development overall.
The reason why i stopped playing xiv is because of this, its absurd that we even have to pay for a game that we can not play as we like, simply because they fail at designing and planning content on a period of time.

So the whole XIV machine is based on this repetitive pattern over and over, its gonna be like this forever, next years to come, and frankly its boring.
There are so many things that they could improve with just a little effort to avoid this situation yet they dont do anything about it, im impressed by people still playing this game after you already basically done the same thing. Now everyone is back to square one.
We gonna have a new relic, a new 24 man dungeon, new primal, savage, andddddddddd repeat. Such imagination, such creativity and ideas.

Who's fault is that? playerbase imo. People accept everything they throw at you nowadays and this is quite the result. This game title always used to inspire your fantasy and mean something to players, Final Fantasy always been a deep travel and gaming experience, now is just a boring pattern on the line of WoW just because they had to jump into the bandwagon of modern mmos.

Quite a disappointment for me, i've grow up playing Final Fantasy since years, since 3 and 4 came out. It is just really sad to see the current status of the game to me, anyway if you have fun with this, good for you.

(oh and before some smart guy type why i am still writing and reading forum if i quit, its because my sub is still active, made a mistake on renewing for months so, gotta wait for it to run out, besides i like reading forums).