I just have a terrifying through, a premade party or 5 or more can technically screw over anyone if they want to as there is no warning on party member
Square Enix, this is an absolutely egregious oversight on your part and it needs to be addressed immediately.
This is my second week in a row I have been trolled out of 2 chests.
The problem is that you have set up these systems to prevent this kind of thing...but only if you are either:
1) The troll
2) The party leader
All 6 other people are absolutely clueless and have no power or knowledge in the situation until it is too late.
Some are saying the solution is to make my own PF, but that is not a solution. How are the 7 people who join my PF supposed to trust me? They have no way of knowing if I'm going to screw them out of a chest or not.
This is absolutely unacceptable. There is no reason to raid weekly anymore for me, and since that is the content I have, then there is no reason for me to stay subbed anymore. You have to fix this immediately or you will lose a lot of players, me included.
Same applies here as to many other Duty Finder complaints: Don't use Duty Finder then, build your own group. With DF you KNOW you might get matched to a less skilled player or even a first timer...deal with it.
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Even if you build your own group, there's no safety net for the people in your group against you, if you happen to be the troll. As far as I know, if a PF says "Duty Completion" (which means 2-chest) it's not going to automatically lock the option in when you queue via Raid Finder.
Duty Complete/Duty Incomplete/Duty Completion also all sound really similar and are obtuse in their meaning.
With an absolute weekly lockout there needs to be protection against jerks, trolls, and ignorance. Joining should be a unanimous, informed decision, not something completely left up to the party leader.
When queue pops, when you hit Commence and the party is not eligible for 2-chest, a warning window for everyone in the party that says "This party is only eligible for 1 chest/is not eligible for chests. Accepting this queue means you agree to this" and requires additional input to fully accept. This is the same thing that happens when you hit Withdraw on DF - you get a pop-up that gives the leave penalty warning and requires more input to accept. Heck, make the button require you to hold it a couple seconds to fully accept. That's all anyone needs to realize something is off.
For that matter if any other kind of lockout would result, for example if someone queues O3S before clearing O1S/O2S for the week, another pop-up should occur to inform the player that High-end duty raids must be completed in sequential order every week and skipping to a later floor so makes them ineligible for any loot on prior floors.
There also should be a full Practice mode where no rewards, no lockout, no quest completion, no first-time bonus fulfillment, and no cutscenes occur.
I understand completely. It was the same argument I made before. Yes, there is a system in place that system also depend on the honesty of the party leader. IF the leader is honest and choose the correct option it is good. However, if the leader is careless or in it with troll, you are screw.Square Enix, this is an absolutely egregious oversight on your part and it needs to be addressed immediately.
This is my second week in a row I have been trolled out of 2 chests.
The problem is that you have set up these systems to prevent this kind of thing...but only if you are either:
1) The troll
2) The party leader
All 6 other people are absolutely clueless and have no power or knowledge in the situation until it is too late.
Some are saying the solution is to make my own PF, but that is not a solution. How are the 7 people who join my PF supposed to trust me? They have no way of knowing if I'm going to screw them out of a chest or not.
This is absolutely unacceptable. There is no reason to raid weekly anymore for me, and since that is the content I have, then there is no reason for me to stay subbed anymore. You have to fix this immediately or you will lose a lot of players, me included.
Last edited by Xellos2099; 08-09-2017 at 11:10 AM.
I seriously don't get why this discussion is still going on. It can't be that hard to implement a warning message similar to Bonus -
"One or more Members of your Party has already completed this Duty. You will reciece (1/0) chests upon completion."
Cmon SE, you know there are trolls in this game who do this on purpose, do something to stop them already.
Almost had this happen to me last night, if I hadn't had the warning to queue properly I would've been out a chest.
The person responsible was adamant they hadn't cleared for the week, too, but eventually they realised we weren't going in and left.
Had this happen to my group today. Our Leader wasn't paying attention and even though we put 2 chest clear. We had someone join cross server and it became a 1 drop chest. They didnt say anything and left while the rest of us were left stunned. Our Static leader was pretty hard on himself about the whole thing. Hopefully it won't happen again. ;;
Do you think SE really care? It's been like this since coil.I seriously don't get why this discussion is still going on. It can't be that hard to implement a warning message similar to Bonus -
"One or more Members of your Party has already completed this Duty. You will reciece (1/0) chests upon completion."
Cmon SE, you know there are trolls in this game who do this on purpose, do something to stop them already.
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